Finally I got the opportunity to buy my dad's old RTL back. Dad rode this one for twelve years as his only bike. It's a little reworked but it doesn't matter. Anyone else who has a Nigel Birkett brakes conversion?
I have been doing a check up on everything and the only thing that is really worn is the fork springs. I saw that they had a ND9 number, so it should be hard to find new ones. Anyone who knows where I can get hold of new ones or are there any replacement or pattern parts available?
I also want to save my original rear fender, are there any replacements around?
Well the carbon cover got really hot, I could barely hold my hand on it. And it smelled burnt plastic. So I took the isolation from the original cover and shaped it and put it between the exhaust and cover. Now it doesn't get hot at all.
About the dirt throwing I don't think it will be a problem, there wasn't more dirt in my boots than usual. But there may be more dirt around the air intake under the fender, haven't checked that out yet. And I haven't tested any big streams or rivers yet.
The fit is perfekt, aka japanese, and I had to wiggle with it to get it lined up right at the exhaustport. Got it wrong the first time and sounded like a steam engine
We have the eco-warriors here also but they don't impose the biggest problem. The problem we have is that people keep building houses near our training areas and then they complain that we disturb their peace. Fortunatly we almost always ride on saturdays, because it seems like people don't bother as much as they do on sundays.
This particular area where the clips were filmed we have the huge advantage of having a highpower line running right thru the area. This means that there won't be anything built in the area. We also have permission from both the police and the local authorities to use the area for trials riding.
I thought about doing a review of the exhaust system, but think it's better that you lot ask me what you want to know and I will try to answer the best I can.
OOOhhh...I almost forgot. The videos with the original exhaust is with all plugs in.
Going to do my first real practice with the Mitani exhaust system tomorrow. Hopfully I will be able to give some feedback and I'm going to try to upload some filmclips aswell
I think the reason that only one manufacturer has enough knowledge of building 4t trials and ofcourse Honda has money to back it up. From what I've heard they started testing the first prototype of the 4RT back in 2003. Sherco has done a good job with the 4t, if you think of how big they are compared to Honda. If Sherco continue to develop the 4t it will be a great bike in a few years. I think GasGas and Beta will have a problem if FIM decide to run only 4t.
For me the biggest reason to ride a 4t is that it suits my riding perfectly, and, what's more important, it makes me smile I havn't actually seen anyone driving a 4RT that hasn't been smiling, exept for those who have decided that the bike is no good before they have even tried it.
It is not only the emission that makes the 4t a good trials engine, but many other things such as traction and smoothness. But that was not my point. I'm not so sure that today's 2t can meet the requirements of Euro 3, without a heavy rebuild. The question is, is a 2t really that much better than a 4t that developing a 4t is not an option.
I'm very interested in the map experiment your doing as I also like the mild setting. I've done som modding on it but since I don't have any education on the system I don't know what's best.
I have not experienced any problems with start or idle at cold conditions but it will be interesting to see what you find out. Don't know if it has any relevance but I use a petrol that is environment friendly and is used in power saws nad such (don't know the name in english).
BTW the silencer get really hot. After just a couple of minutes of testing I couldn't hold my hand at the lower end of the carbon cover
I just installed the exhaust and tested i outside the garage. I must say the exhaust and pipe are a really good fit and the welding is amazing. I'll post the photos in 2 post. <mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central> did a splendid job with the order and there will be more orders from Sweden
NOTE: To say that the Mitani silencer is quiet is little wrong BUT it's far better than the original one. It has a mellow sound to it and not the high pitched sound of the original. When you rev the bike the Mitani silencer still has plenty of grunt but in a more pleasant way. I will post a video of me riding in a section as soon as all the snow i gone (may take a while).
ferretflasher, thanks for keeping me updated. It's just sad that there is about 40 cm of snow here and the ground is frozen so there won't be any riding in a couple of weeks.
Steve, I do know Jonny. He and my dad used to do alot of training together, not that my dad was up to Jonny's standard, but he stop riding when I was about 10-12 years old (23 now) because I think he had problem with he's shoulders and knees. He had a very physical riding style, think he wore himself out.
After that he did a little bit of roadracing for some years, then he and his dad introduced crosscart here in Sweden. Last time I talked to him he had his own team of 50cc roadracers that he competes with in Sweden and around Europe.
Jonny tested my 4RT and said that it would be is next trials bike but I have not seen him on one yet, I don't think he got the time.
BTW, any of you chaps have problem on your TLRs with massive clutch slip when engaging in 2nd gear and some revs. It's like "here's drag...nothing happens...no...maybe...no...no...BANG!!!" and I have to concentrate not to fall of the bike
there is a softer mapping on the HRC disk, I've tested it and I found it very smooth little to smooth for my liking so edited it so the ignition isn't as retarded. I think it's easier now to control it around idle, it also feels like it's stronger at low revs but that can just be me dreaming.
anyone know if they really changed anything in the clutch because my new repsol feels totally different from my dad's 05. it's less drag and little more on and off but it's a big difference
so now it's done...I have ordered the Mitani exhaust system from <mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central> plus some other small things
ferretflasher, I hope you'll keep an eye on my things for me
the setting i am testing right now is +5% more fuel everywhere and the ignition set to a min of -5 degrees. i used the 05rtlml0.e2p and reduced everything to half of what is was (hope that makes sence). i will reduce the fuel to +3% since the plug is a little black. all i want is to get as much torque as possible because i'm not the revving type of rider, i use high gears instead.
what is the positive and negative on the ignition setting, i think i have figured out but just like to be sure
what about the wes silencer it got good reviews at todotrial but has anyone exept them tested it.
also has anyone got any programs for the HRC ECU they want to share with me since I don't really have figured out what all the changes does to the bike
just got it finished...i want to ride have to wait til after christmas
has anyone tested wes or mitani silencers, are they better that stock or is it just for bling
i'm thinking about ordering the whole mitani titanium exhaust from <mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central> but since none here in sweden has got it i wanted to check with you guys first
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Finally I got the opportunity to buy my dad's old RTL back. Dad rode this one for twelve years as his only bike. It's a little reworked but it doesn't matter. Anyone else who has a Nigel Birkett brakes conversion?
I have been doing a check up on everything and the only thing that is really worn is the fork springs. I saw that they had a ND9 number, so it should be hard to find new ones. Anyone who knows where I can get hold of new ones or are there any replacement or pattern parts available?
I also want to save my original rear fender, are there any replacements around?