Has anybody used one of the stainless pipes sold by Craig Mawlam or Sammy Miller? If so what do you think of them as Im looking to buy one for my Majesty

You are going to need a pipe from Craig,I think for your Majesty.With the engine being higher in the frame than a standard TY a Miller one is not going to fit.I have what I think is a Miller one on my standard TY,its not very good quality - esp when you look inside it,but the chrome is OK.Still shiny after 3 years but with lots of solvol/WD40 care.

I think Craig Mawlems pipes are stainless - better all round really,and pretty much seamless inside and out if done properly.

Chrome still OK? Thats amazing! SM's favourite thing to write on a purchase order to electro platers was "FLASH CHROME"

I did say "OK" and not brilliant,top notch etc - cant imagine it would tolerate much abuse.Is SM known for cheapo type quality then ?

Let see how the new guy fairs! "Nuff said."

Hardly a new guy,been riding trials bikes for 25 odd years,just never bought anything off SM before - have noticed that people seem very willing to have a go at him,cant be a***d with petty rubbish,if there's a problem fair enough.

Not petty, but lets just say I knew people on the inside and many of the bullied sub contractors. What ever gets said is probably based on fact or personal experiences. I even used to be a customer there many moons ago, mudguard stays I once bought went rusty in 6 months though!

I still stay friendly with the old man! Just wouldnt do business with him.

The new owner does need to improve quality and according to their own website he's new to "trials" but not Motocross.

BUT they now have a stainless TY pipe so I've just seen.

Wayne.... That really is enough said!

Yes, the new SM TY250 pipe is stainless, the old one was chromed steel.

The chromed type I bought a few years ago was too small in diameter to fit snugly into the collar that secures it to the cylinder which makes positioning it to sit correctly over the exhaust port difficult. Strangely, when a mate bought one not too long afterwards his was shaped differently and fitted in the collar much better. I phoned SM to see whether they had changed the design and was told no, they've been the same ever since we started making them (no I didn't have one for a TY175)

We've both fitted them to a Majesty and although designed for a standard TY250 they will go on the Majesty with a bit of fiddling. They are a bit of a cheap and nasty construction though. There is a fairly prominent lip directly inside the entrance where two different diameter pipes are welded together and this needs cleaning off to smooth it out. The chrome hasn't suffered on mine and I've had it for aboout 3 or 4 years now although very rarely on the bike as I made my own in the end as I wanted a larger diameter pipe. Maybe it would have suffered more if it was used constantly. Now this is the old version I'm talking about, no idea about the new stainless version.

The only aftermarket front pipe you can get specifically for a Majesty is Craig Mawlam's, which is also stainless.

Hi thanks guys, but Im talking about the stainless pipes they both do. I had the chrome pipe from Sammy but it didnt fit the Maj very well, I was told the pipe Craig is selling was made shorter to fit the Godden frame better

The SM stainless pipe is still designed for the standard TY250 though, not the Majesty, but as with the old chrome version I daresay it would still fit with a bit of fiddling.

Craig's pipe should fit Godden and Yam framed Majesty as they both use a shorter pipe.