Sorry to stretch this one into 2 forums, but I didn't think many people would read it where it started, in "Beta: Merry Christmas".

Is it really true that the AMA has insisted on long-sleeved shirts for trials competition?

I have serious reservations about joining an organization that would spend my dues to pay lawyers to fight mandatory helmet laws(I never have joined).

So, not only does the AMA fight mandatory helmet laws WHILE imposing mandatory helmet rules at their events, but now they are insisting on LONG SLEEVES?!?!?

So, are they for safety or against it? Or are they for it when it's THEIR insurance; and for "freedom" when it's somebody else's insurance?

The AMA has been a political/hypocritical organization since their beginnings a puppet of Harley-Davidson, formed to impose racing rules that made sure (for a little while, anyway) that HD wouldn't get clobbered by the Brit bikes.

Politics and motorcycles don't mix. Never have.

Remember your latin roots: "Poli" meaning 'many'--- and "tics" meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.

I thought that youth riders had to have long sleeves, but older riders it was optional.

I dont really think a 1mm thin sleeve is going to do much to save your arms.

It applies to adults in the UK, in the 98 SSDT I wasn't allowed to start a section because I had took my jacket off and had a T shirt on, since I took it off down by the road I had to borrow a coat so I could ride the section.

It used to be no shorter than 3" in the US, I don't know why it is now required to be full length, as HRC say's not a lot of protection, more likely they want you to look more professional in their series.

At club level it would come down to who would enforce the rule, some parts of the US in summer, being the person to tell all the riders they must wear a full length sleeve could be a hot topic

Edited January 4, 200422 yr by ishy

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Although, correct me if im wrong, the UK law reguard motorcycle riding says it is against the law to ride a motorcycle without covering the arms. Is this just a 'stay safe' thing for the clubs insurance?

So when the insurance asked if Mr.SoandSo had his arms covered, they can say yes.

I think the insurance see's anything that covers the skin is protection. Although as the trials clothing gets lighter, the protection goes down.

Im in two minds about this...

Does seem a might silly, but that same rule has been in place in MX for years. I guess some protection is better than none...at least from sunburn

If I understand correctly the rule that is being discussed applies to the NATC National Championship Series (the nationals) only and does not apply to local club trials.

Is that not correct. The rules are posted at: http://www.natctrials.org/

Wayne

Hi Wayne, it will most likely apply to any AMA sanctioned event, so those clubs that use the AMA insurance for their locals will probably have to run under those rules.

But as you say the only time I could see it being enforced would be at the nationals, and most riders do wear the correct clothing as your name is checked on your shirt at tech.

The rules in the UK are that all riders must have thier arms covered and wear a helmet. Schoolpersons must also wear gloves but these are optional for adults.

I don't think there are any other restrictions on riding gear. I personally would remove the long sleave rule for adults and insist on all riders wearing suitable boots. You can currently ride in sandles if you want but you must have your arm covered. Kind of silly when you think about it.

Don't think thats right bigfoot not in England anyway according to handbok-

Clothing must cover legs and body and it is recommended that arms should be covered.

All youth competitors must have clothing covering arms and wear gloves.

Its all in the ACU hand book which we get when we pay our affiliation fee

which reminds me were is that renewal form.

i know FIM states knee length boots, wonder if high heels would pass