It's been over a year now since the 4RT replaced the 2ST whats the concensus:

Did Montesa do the right thing or should they have run on the 2ST for a couple more years?

How many units are the dealers selling in 06 compared with 04?

Do you think the indoor series has hurt Montesa?

No. Less at a guess. No.

If you could buy a monty it would be nice,last year i gave up waiting in about april

I am still waiting for one now

Only a few years ago monty had loads of bikes at southern trials mostly new or just a year old,now they are fewer on the ground and old 315s still out number 4rts

Montesa in my opinion where brave to change to 4t but when they did it they thought everone else would have to do the same (they still might)

everyone who has one seems to love it,its just not many people want to take the risk

I would say it's a good thing for Montesa, as when 4 stroke is mandatory, they'll have the upper hand, those crazy Jap's know what they're doing!

If you could buy a monty it would be nice,last year i gave up waiting in about april

I am still waiting for one now

Only a few years ago monty had loads of bikes at southern trials mostly new or just a year old,now they are fewer on the ground and old 315s still out number 4rts

Montesa in my opinion where brave to change to 4t but when they did it they thought everone else would have to do the same (they still might)

everyone who has one seems to love it,its just not many people want to take the risk

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Supply doesn't seem to be a problem up here a well respected gentleman in the later stages of trialling has just bought a new Repsol Replica no problem trying to get it to a desk top to remap has caused more difficulty

Supply doesn't seem to be a problem up here a well respected gentleman in the later stages of trialling has just bought a new Repsol Replica no problem trying to get it to a desk top to remap has caused more difficulty 

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He needs to read the "Trials Bike's in Houses" Thread

Now this may sound a bit daft or unbelieveable but its true . I went to my local trials dealer last week all excited , ive decideed to get a 4rt, so how much to trade in my Sherco 290 2004, the reply was sorry were not taking trade ins at the moment sell it yourself you will get a better deal ! . Couldnt believe what i was hearing so still got the sherco, If i do sell it i wont be goin back there

ps anyone want a sherco

Not many dealers want a shop full of Pex's would you. Dealer price for that sherco

No. Less at a guess. No.

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short, sharp, concise, as usual, also in my mind correct......again!!

I love Driffield.

I love Driffield.

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As sang about by Shaun William Ryder in a track on the Amateur Night in the Big Top Album.

Superb album.

It's been over a year now since the 4RT replaced the 2ST whats the concensus:

Did Montesa do the right thing or should they have run on the 2ST for a couple more years?

How many units are the dealers selling in 06 compared with 04?

Do you think the indoor series has hurt Montesa?

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If you read between the lines here, I think Austini has raised a few valid points.

I read somewhere ( don't you just hate that vague phrase?)that;

1) The current 4RT cost

I agree with most of what has been said

I reckon that the bike gives four-stoke lovers a competitive machine at most levels and for them, if they can afford it, thats great.

Any normal rider who judges a bike by its indoor performance only I think would be a little naive!

In the grand scheme of things,

There are 2 type of people in this world.

Those that own a 4RT and those that want to own one.

Theres only really Sherco and Montesa who have bought out a new bike in the last year. Beta and Gasser just cosmetic changes.