Any one heading the Burton trial at Clifton on Sunday?. I am aiming to be there falling off my panther with great regularity.That's depending on if tossers round here have left some petrol in any of the garages.As my car is low on fuel and I will need some to be able to go.
Great pics. Nice to see Werner Enckel out on the old japette. Funny enough talking about him today and how we hadnt seen him for a while. Nice to see hin still riding. great bloke.
He was having major issues with his bike this day.It wouldn't start and then he had to keep revving it to keep it running.But due to it being total loss oil it was then oiling up.So he kept turning the oil off and then turning it back on when he entered the section.he was doing so bad that I even beat him in one section.As he explains the oil pump fitted on these bikes isn't actually a pump,its just a complex way of fitting a tap in to regulate the flow a bit.But i always seem to spend a lot of the day chatting with him.I can nearly understand him now.He is talking about doing the 1000 bikes again this year
Oh and I didn't take the photos.I am just the one who has the info in picasa and You tube.
I have fitted a tank of a BSA 250 single,I had to make some ally mounts up and velcro some rubber strips across the top to mount it as the standard mounts were to low,I have spaced the front spring out and made up longer forks links to raise the front,fitted plates at the bottom of the forks,welded some plates at the rear to raise the back,made and fitted a new posh gear lever,had a mate at work wire cut some splines into a Jap kickstart to allow it to fit straight on(he has done this for numerous people now and both his AJS bikes are fitted with the same levers). The bike is getting better its just the rider letting it down now.But I now have about 9 1/2" clearance and about a 50" wheel base.
I intend to lower the rear mudguard and make a new chain guard next and sort out a new rear brake lever and operating mechanism.As I need to fit a cable as the rod is not brilliant.
Just rebuild a set of Cub hubs. So have it fairly fresh in mind, but to avoid posting anything wrong had a look in the "Triumph Tiger Cub Bible" as well and apparently that books contains all the wisdom! If only I used it instead of dragging rusty greasy worn bearings around.
Front:
-Left side: type 6202 - 15mm ID x 35mm OD x 11 mm wide
-Right side: type 6203 - 17mm ID x 40mm OD x 12 mm wide
Rear:
Both the same size: type 6203 - 17mm ID x 40mm OD x 12 mm wide.
I went for the sealed ones and since I only plan on using the bike for trials (No greenlaning, so speeds will stay low), I went for budget series, but Stainless steel sealed bearings. Think is going to pay of when using the bike for wading and muddy trials.
It come as no surprise to those of us with worn out bootsoles to hear that there was no attempt at improvement in braking between the Thirties and Fifties.
Well actually that is slightly wrong.As the original rear brake on my Panther was a "massive" 6" unit.This was due to it originally being a hand change bike.So they figured that one would be slightly busy trying to slow down and change gear with your right hand so a good rear brake was needed.
enter the number in the search facility and a selection of bearings should come up. This company supplies good bearings so an 'economy' bearing will be good enough, or you can order a quality bearing such as SKF at an incrased price. They supply metric and imperial sizes.
If no number is present there is a facility for entering bore, diameter and width and this also will give you a choice of bearing. If you are still stuck ring them or email them as they are very helpful.
I would recommend a sealed bearing for your wheel which can be identified by looking for the letters 2RS after the identifying four digit number. If you need to know a little more about bearings read the FAQ page (product info).
Hope this helps.
Tim
Hi mate.
I was hoping that I could size them before taking them out.But I think they are standard size bearings.I can't see the number with them installed.So if anyone knows it would be a great help.I do plan to leave them in for now.But I do like getting the bits ready for when I do it.
I have enough to do with installing my remade gear selector as the old one is starting to crack with old age.Plus I need to remake the rear guard and chain guards as I have moved the wheel down about 2 1/2" with a couple of plates which I made at work welded into the rear frame rails.
I have a pair of Cub wheels fitted into my Panther trials bike.Amazingly the front wheel is the same sizes brake as was originally fitted back in the 30's.After spending a few hours stripping the wheels down to dry the drums and brakes after our very wet and swampy trial last weekend I noticed the front wheel bearings are a bit sloppy one side.
can any one supply the bearing sizes so I can purchase some ready to fit after our next swampy trial.
I made my own.2 pieces of angle iron welded together to make the channel.The remaining bit is bolted across this with the wheels and mudguards fitted.6 M8 bolts and it comes apart.I fitted 4 plastic wheels to the channel section and this runs under my sidecar body in the garage.The only big bit is the axle piece.
I have added some more shots onto Picasa.This time from my dads photo album from the mid to late 70's.They are mainly of him but he is mounted on various bikes.This was around the time that the 25 year rule in the VMCC meant that most bikes with tele forks and the the like were to new to use.So people used to use Velocettes and New imperials and other pre war stuff.
This is my dad mounted on his 1940's 350cc Red Panther.
Great stuff, nice to see some old rigid's still been used in anger....Beyond your control i know,but a shame the 2 strokes queuing up were drowning out the bikes riding the section.
Yes I agree mate.bloody smelly 2 stokes.I hate them.
Another video of our latest event.held at Earl Shilton trial ground.Our trials are renowned for having mud and this one didn't disappoint.I ended up videoing as I broke a footrest of my panther.(mainly due to my crappy welding). But I think i was on for a cricket score anyway.
I have got a trailer for my bike.But last summer I needed to get my bike to Mallory for the 1000 bike do in which I competed in the pre 65 trial.I also needed my bike at another couple of events.
So not wanting to drag the Panther a round on a trailer during the summer I came up with this.
16 bolts to remove the body off my ural and a sheet of chipboard and a few blocks and straps.
I even took the bikes to a local chop club do.I did get some funny looks but then the fact I followed a mate there on his 1934 250cc BSA didn't help.But out of all the "individual" Harleys there i can honestly say we had the most individual bikes out of the lot of them.plus my Ural gets used all year round even more so when the snow and ice is about.Unlike a harley.
Just a few shots from my clubs pre 57 (ish) trial championship.The event was held at Vickers farm in Leicestershire.We have 3 in the girder fork class (a 250 Japette,a 500 Levis and my 350 panther). I only managed to break my decompression lever and snap a clutch lever off when the bike stop at the top of a bank.If i had 30 foot long legs i would have been fine.
I know that any time I change a tyre I will pinch the tube.So I used to wimp out and go to my local bike tyre fitting place.But given that I need to change 4 tyres on my Ural I decided I would get one of those tyre changing arms that you see on the interweb.
After turning my work mate into a wheel holder I can now say that I can change tyres with no problems.In fact I have changed 4 tyres this week and not one pinched tube.Result.
Well i have gone with the 14 tooth front sprocket and a 66 tooth dinner plate on the back.According to people who know that works out at around 29/1.Which is near enough to 30/1 for me.I must admit that the bike felt too slow when i blatted up and down the road on it.But after competing in a trial today i must say i am impressed.I was under a lot more control than i have ever been this season.
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Any one heading the Burton trial at Clifton on Sunday?. I am aiming to be there falling off my panther with great regularity.That's depending on if tossers round here have left some petrol in any of the garages.As my car is low on fuel and I will need some to be able to go.