This is why other trials brands are not jumping on the "add on" E start wagon. KTM went through this with E start on Enduro bikes. The add on starters were problematic, and they fixed this by designing engines with E start from the drawing board.
I've owned/ridden Gas Gas TXT Pro, Scorpa Twenty and now on my third Beta Evo. I couldn't consistently start the Gas Gas, with me being being short of stature, and the Scorpa 250 was a little too sharp on the power.... I ended up with a Beta 200, though I could just as easily ride the 250. There was an adjustment to the geometry, but now I like it. The secret to making it not push and tuck.... is stay back a little and centered. If you lean on the front end too much, it will push. Being easy to start, and smooth power are hard not to like. The clutch tends to be all over the place on stiffness of lever pull and action. My friend's '21 Factory 250 is very light pull and smooth action. All mine have been stiff and quick. A larger diameter slave cylinder fixes mine.
Seeing as how EM buys a standard charger out of China, their logic is severely flawed.
Obviously! Mark Berg had wanted lower pricing, but he said EM couldn't be dissuaded. I think they decided that USA early adopters have deep pockets and they needed to exploit that.
When I follow that link from the US, it says, "$11,980.00 Tax included. Shipping calculated at checkout."
Yes, dollars. I realize your price includes VAT, whereas mine would not. But that can't possibly be right.
USA pricing for EM has been essentially EU price including VAT and then transport costs. I had long discussions with EM's Jean Pena and EM USA's Mark Berg about this. No other trials manufacturer does this for the USA. Their logic for this is the different requirements for 120v charging in the USA add cost. Maybe some, but not 20%. A big reason I didn't buy an EM....
I'm a rear brake user.... we ride a lot of steep downhills in wet and dry. I also use my rear brake a lot in tight turns. I have a '21 Factory 200 which I did upgrade to an NG FIM rear disc and a '23 Factory 200 with the stock one. The rear brake works as good or better than my previous Gas Gas and Scorpas did. It seems very consistent to me. What do you feel?
As an event host I have some issues with the new rules so I'm sure other will too.
... still trying to interpret this part: " Front number plates are required for all National Championship Rounds. They may conform in size and shape to the outline provided by the fork tubes and yokes. Numbers are not required." 🤔
It could be better worded, but not as ambiguous as you think. Other than the previous season's class champion having the option to run number 1 on their plate, no rider numbers are assigned or required. The plate must have the correct colour background, and class designation. NATC/AMA supplementary rules for USA Nationals are similar, but also require rider name and State of residence.
Yes calling it a number plate, when no number is required.... seems odd. Number plate or number board is the generally used name for this on a trials bike. Maybe class plate would be a better term in this case?
Feel on a Beta Evo clutch is all over the map, regardless of Braktec master on the Factory or Grimeca master on the Standard. The larger 30mm slave cylinder from Hippel Racing, has improved feel on my last two Factory models.
A friend who is is presently riding a 2007 Scorpa SY250, is getting a 2024 Beta 250. He rode my 200 and a 250, and he felt that the 250 was smoother. I still find that the ground speed on the 250 is just a tick faster for me, so the next obstacle comes up faster.
I had a '21 200 Factory, to which I added the Beta Heavy flywheel. I now have a '23 200 Factory with the standard flywheel, and like it better. It's a tad snappier and still has plenty of grunt.It raised my riding a level. It has near the power of a 250, but slightly lower ground speed with stock gearing. I ride in the Finger Lakes region of NY, and our conditions are quite muddy year round.
I always rode enduro bikes in the winter on screws or studded tires, and a dirt track bike with full ice racing tires on the lake. It seemed natural to me when I started riding trials 6 years ago, to figure out some studded tires for winter. However... I ended up not doing it, but do ride all winter without studding up. I ride at the Tryals Shop with the owner Mike Komer. We shovel and snow blow a couple of sections all winter long. If it gets icy, we spread a little sand around. The lower traction really makes you work on being smooth, with momentum, timing, and body position, as going to the throttle is not a great option. You ride smaller obstacles, but you're still getting a work out, and improving your skills for the wet riding coming next season.
Thanks don't know if this matter but it's a multijet version and what do you mean front end striped down if it's just take the front wheel off i can live with that @nhuskys
I mean you take a tie down and run it from bars to fork bottom and compress the front end to lower it slightly, before you load the bike.
I have the USA version of the Fiat Doblo Maxi. I can fit a Beta X-Trainer in it. A typical MX or Enduro bike has to have the front end strapped down a bit, for the bars to clear the rear entry.
With a duff right knee, I love my left kick Beta Evo, as it starts so easily. If I ever go back to a right kick bike (previous bike was a Scorpa), it's going to need to be an e start one. TRS is out for me, as my dealer doesn't sell them. I'm guessing Sherco/Scorpa will be the next e start bike, as they have a new engine design. I would imagine that they designed the ability to add e start to it. The new bike is quite a bit lighter, so adding it won't be a big weight disadvantage over the old bike. Vertigo has been having rumblings that e start is coming for over 2 years, but nothing yet. Gas Gas will probably have a new EFI engine with e start to go in their new frame in a year or so.
I have a Beta X-Trainer, and the e start works better than any other 2T enduro bike I've owned. That said... I added the kick start kit, because of a bad experience with an e start only Sherco. Battery went flat, and I had to push it up a muddy hill to bump start it.
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This is why other trials brands are not jumping on the "add on" E start wagon. KTM went through this with E start on Enduro bikes. The add on starters were problematic, and they fixed this by designing engines with E start from the drawing board.