May 29, 201115 yr I have a 4RT (my second after a REV 300) and it's a wonderful and very reliable. But yesterday i rode a EVO 300 4-stroke, very handy and powerful. I'm no Beta fan, so I hope wishfully, Honda/Montesa will bring out soon a new bike. It will certainly not be worse than a EVO. Does anybody know any news? German Munster Edited May 29, 201115 yr by German Munster
May 29, 201115 yr so I hope wishfully, Honda/Montesa will bring out soon a new bike. German Munster There are many of us that "hope wishfully" 2012 ???
May 29, 201115 yr Grmpf, I hope, this is not the trough: http://moto-montesa.superforum.fr/t5893-la-nouvelle-montesa-4rt I found it yesterday.......... German Munster
May 31, 201115 yr MORE PICTURES Is there any difference, except for a larger headerpipe heatguard and a milled rear wheel
June 1, 201115 yr It appears that all rumors of Honda not developing are true. Nothing outstanding here possible cat under massive guard, wheels, strange spindle protectors on rear...... I could make my 05 look like that booting a few extras on they must still be trying to refresh old stock and move it on
June 1, 201115 yr I recently heard a rumour that Montesa/Honda are in fact working on a 2T FI trials bike. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?
June 1, 201115 yr Honda are like the cold war soviets, they don't want to give anything away until the have to. Don't be overly surprised if something comes out in the next few years, just don't expect it too soon. If I were them allegedly sitting on lots of stock there is no way I would de-value it by an announcement like that.
June 1, 201115 yr I recently heard a rumour that Montesa/Honda are in fact working on a 2T FI trials bike. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? NO. Honda made it clear long ago, no more 2 strokes. Don't be overly surprised if something comes out in the next few years, just don't expect it too soon. If I were them allegedly sitting on lots of stock there is no way I would de-value it by an announcement like that. That what I think too. They are not sitting on lots of stock. It has all been sold. Hence the new production run.
June 3, 201115 yr So I will ride my aged 4 RT for another year and also will hope for another year, that on christmas 2012 I will have got the new developed Honda Montesa ...RT! German Munster Edited June 3, 201115 yr by German Munster
June 4, 201115 yr I recently heard a rumour that Montesa/Honda are in fact working on a 2T FI trials bike. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? Has anyone seen the film Inception? If I read Steve's post over and over again will I be able to influence my dream?
June 4, 201115 yr Could this be the first view of a new engine configuration for Honda singles (CRF & 4RT). True its a a long way from a trials engine but when there is a new 4RT motor could it be with the cylinder canted reward, intake in front, exhaust out the back? The new NSF250R was given its first public viewing during a special HRC presentation in the Montmelo circuit paddock earlier today. Honda gave some details about the new project, with the bike available to purchase for 23,600 Euros, while sales of the bike are estimated to commence in December. A press kit issued by Honda said: "The NSF250 engine was developed exclusively for road racing, to ensure superior quality and greater potential for commercial racing machine. With a development concept of "lightweight, compact, high output and efficiency," numerous technological advances were introduced to create an engine befitting a racing machine. "The DOHC single-cylinder 249cc engine demonstrates a racing machine's power delivery and response, with intake from front and exhaust to rear to improve air charging efficiency, and a cylinder tilted back 15 degrees to concentrate the engine’s mass, primarily to improve its stability. In order to deliver ample power into the high rpm range, the DOHC system incorporates titanium valves for both intake and exhaust (Honda patented). "The new design also offers improved air charging efficiency along with ram-air intake, thanks to the straight intake port and throttle body with 50-mm diameter bore. In shaft layout, the balancer shaft is placed above the crankshaft to make the engine shorter and concentrate the mass." Explaining details of the chassis concept, Honda said it was heavily based on the RS125R chassis. "The NSF250R’s frame is based on the RS125R’s proven unit. To optimise the rigidity in balance and torsion of a 4-stroke engine, frame specifications were determined from actual riding tests and CAE analysis. For the front engine hanger and the main pipe section, optimum balance was achieved mainly by enhancing torsional rigidity. "A newly configured swing-arm and frame body also resulted in a structure allowing smooth torsional characteristics. On the whole, stability during braking is improved, and a leeway and nimbleness during cornering exceeding those of the RS125R is ensured. The frame offers superb handling so that riders will not feel the weight increase of a 4-stroke engine, even when approaching corners." Spain’s first MotoGP world champion Alex Criville will complete demo laps on the bike during this weekend’s Catalunya Grand Prix. Edited June 4, 201115 yr by for artie
June 4, 201115 yr Euro 23,600 - we thought 4rts where pricey. I think with Ossa and now this rear facing cylinders may be the new standard. 4 stroke exhaust more suits this set up better that 2t.
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