tahoebrian5 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hi trials central, I'm a new guy and am obsessively looking for my first trials motorcycle. Here is my first post in the introduction forum http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/topic/53453-hello-from-a-newbie/#entry381375 Anyway I just thought I'd start a thread in case anyone would like to comment or school me on my ongoing hunt. The first thing I've learned about trials riding is the bikes are much harder to find than Motocrossers. The first two offers I had mentioned in my intro post both fell through. Currently I'm after a 2005 GG pro 300. Guy is wanting 3,000 USD. It's not mint condition but supposedly is in good working order. Ok. I'll post back up when something happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross brown Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) In my experience in the hunt, the best advice I can share is know what bike you want and pusue it ruthlessly. You will be surprised how many trials bikes are listed as Trails (spell checker - a 1st world problem) and dont use the key word TRIALS. Many search engines such as Craigs list or ebay then don' t show the bike. Owner gets fewer click-throughs. You get lower price. Edited November 19, 2014 by ross brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 At this point I'm not looking for a specific bike. I'm sure whatever I get, knowing how I am, I'll want a new one next year. I've upped my budget to 3k now to open up some options. Also starting to have second thoughts about the GG 05 300 after reading about the starting difficulties. I've been spoiled with e start for quite some time so not looking forward to a tough to start bike. How much difference does the compression spacer make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ok, I've got another option.. A 2009 gas gas 280 Econo for about 3k. Would this be a better buy over the 2005 300 for 2900? The Econo model seems to be a bit vague about what it is. Just whatever the factory had lying around? On buying long distance... PayPal does not offer protection for motor vehicles. I just discovered this. I'm thinking the best way would be to have a motorcycle shop be the middle man. Thoughts on this? Oh jeez, this is driving me nuts. I need to get a bike soon before my brain overloads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africanjon Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 SFBay area Clist has a 2011 Beta Evo for $5000 that would be a great first bike that would last you awhile. Buy the latest model you can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africanjon Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Also check out LewisportUSA and speak to Adrian or Mandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I saw that Evo and talked to the guy. He already has an offer. 5k is more than I have currently so I was trying to do a partial trade for my carbon jamis mtb. I just got off the phone with Crystal at lewisport. I did mention I was obsessing! I'm trying for the 2009 econo for 3k and if that doesn't work I'll probly get the 05 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Buy a second hand trials bicycle and start static balance practice and ever tightening fig 8's while you search for a motorcycle? Bicycle will allow you to do static balance inside the house where its cosy through impending winter... if you are bringing motorcycle inside house for static practice like we do thats great as well. Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) My wife is pretty good about dealing with my obsessions. Bringing the motorcycle inside the house might be just pushing my luck a bit I have tried static balancing on my moutain bike in my garage.. Very difficult for me! Great practice though, the moto I'm hoping will feel a bit easier with low tire pressure. Ok, dumb question .. The Econo model I'm after apparently does not have a tubeless wheel in the rear. I probably won't know the difference at first. Maybe even never? What do you guys think about this? Do you get the same feel by using the Nuetech tubliss system to convert it to tubeless? Or am I going to want to buy a new wheel at some point? I guess the other main difference in the Econo model is the forks are different. Anybody have any feedback on them? Edited November 20, 2014 by tahoebrian5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just managed a solid ten seconds on my mtn bike! For me that is progress. I've been trying to use the method shown in Ryan Youngs video where you just use the bars. I just realized that you have to consciously dig in with the tire to get it to do anything. I'm sure it's easier on a moto with the tire dug into the dirt but I think this realization is something I may never have noticed on the moto. Plus one for cross training! Ok everything is going well with the 09 txt 280 Econo. I'm trying to arrange for the owner to drop it off at a shop tomorrow for a look over by the mechanic. If all goes well I will send payment and have it crated for shipping by the end of the day. Watch out novice class, here comes an old guy with poor balance! Well someone has to provide entertainment right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 The econo probably should have a tubeless rim just the older type that uses a thick rim tape to seal rather than the rim with a flange for the 2 piece spokes. Chances are that the previous owner had problems with sealing the spokes & ended up fitting a tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ok, it's official. The 280 is mine and will be shipped tomorrow. I'll post up pics and a multitude of dumb questions when she gets here. Ok, back to the garage for balance drills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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