wobblywalker Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Hi folks,does anyone remember Charlie Shopland and his father in the 60's and 70's on I think, ariel and greeves outfits.I'm trying to find any photos of them competing ,as charlie has told me he has none at all,and hopefully I (you) can surprise him.After finishing with sidecars Charlie has been really successful with trials cars down here in the west country.Hope you can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Hi wobblywalker, I remember the Shoplands riding and I know there are images of them in my archive - but sadly when I constructed the archive many years ago, my reference system was not by name of the competitors - but all 300,000 images will eventually appear in my digital magazine, ORRe - and now I have a marker to look for the Shoplands as I make the next selections - so please, bear with - but live in hope................ Enjoy Deryk Wylde Edited July 9, 2015 by laird387 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblywalker Posted July 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Hi laird387,many thanks for your reply.Charlie's dad was called Geoff,and when things went wrong i've been told they turned the air blue! I'll keep my eyes open. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 I knew the Shoplands when I lived in the SW Centre many years ago, in fact I recall writing an article about them for Trials and Motocross News in its very early days. If anybody has a full set of TMX, I think you will find the article sometime between February 1978 and the end of '79. They were actually a pretty good crew, SW champions as I recall and they also rode in a number of nationals. They were a rough and ready pair but sound blokes though I never knew them very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Now then, having just made the above post, I've actually managed to find a picture of the Shoplands which I shall try to download. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Good heavens, it's worked. Trouble is I've no idea where or when I took the picture. Hope the Laird likes it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Hi Guy's. Nice outfit, Not a Ariel or a Greeves,But a very nice square barreled Victor BSA with Ceriani forks. And the chair does look very much like a Kendall and the one in the background. Must be one of the last chairs built by the Bristol boys??? Oh I wish!!! I Was back then. Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Nice pic - great stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisby Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Great photo, action shot. Pair of characters and nice scenery what more can you ask for in a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyhib Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Many thanks for the photo,I'm going to pass it on to Charlie's daughter so she can print it out.Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Garyhib If you would like a decent print sent to Charlie's daughter, I would be happy to oblige. Contact me on 07788 161929 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblywalker Posted August 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 I was talking to Charlie last night and he bought up a few points that could be of interest to folks. In the picture above, the chair was of Charlie's own design,as a young mechanic at the time with little spare cash,it was built with ingenuity in his spare evenings.He believes in the background is the 250 Bultaco of George Wiliiams and his brother,out of Minehead.The venue,probally Lynmouth or Stonedown (Exford). One of the things he mentioned was the two stroke entry into sidecars,at one trial he watched someone on a big bore two stroke(make unknown,does anyone remember the bike or rider? Charlie thinks he could have come from up north,mind you we're in Somerset most of the countrys up from us! ) and thought that was going to be the way of the future. After purchasing a second hand big bore twin pipe Greeves,Charlie said he spent countless hours trying to get the motor to produce the power needed for sidecar use.A huge lead addition to the flywheel,1/8" spacer under the barrel,a longer inlet manifold were just some of the alterations.It seemed successful,because after some good showings he was given assistance from Bultaco. Once again,many thanks hillary for the photo.Regards Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hi Guy's. Probably before your time. But I remember a very special two stroke engine but for sidecar trials. It was built by John Catchpole. who I think came from the IOM or ended up living there. He did come up with some wild and wonderful stuff during his years has a sidecar driver. The two stroke I seem to remember was built out of a side valve four stroke engine. I bet Deryk has some pictures in his Archives? Happy Days. Regards Charlie.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblywalker Posted August 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hi folks,I might be a sad old git,but for me this is getting really interesting.I'm a kind of toolmaker(a trade that's all but dead now)but i'm really intrigued by anyone that can challenge the norm,I hope I'm not the only one who thinks like this.Does anyone know more about John Catchpole and other people who were ground breaking for their time? I would certainly like to know/learn more about the people that changed the face of trials/scrambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hi wobblywalker, Read ORRe - you might even find a picture of the JC special - built by John Catchpole............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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