I recently spotted this "hand-made" Saracen on ebay and at £4500 it didn't attract a bid..there's a surprise! The frame may originally have been Saracen but little else is period 1970
It is with sadness I convey news of the passing of DOT club stalwart, BMCA trials organiser and Trials Central contributor, Al Usher. Known to many for his "Hammertight" musings in the DOT Club Journal he will be greatly missed by many and our thoughts are with his family.
..thanks for all the advice, I've tried a few things but ended up back at the dealers. They tell me it needs a new "motor", which is odd as I can hear it moving. Anyway, it's booked in under warranty thankfully so should be sorted when the parts arrive.
Has anyone had trouble with the rear door central locking? The rear door locks ok but then won't unlock on the button.. it's then necessary to release it from the inside. Not easy if bikes in the way. Is it a common problem? Is there a fix?
Hi Christyboy, are you sorted with the engine yet? I'm not too far from you either and may be able to help you out as I have "a few" DOT's with various Villiers motors. I've sent a pm with my number.
..absolutely have the same problem, plus mine are also Reactolite so struggle riding in and out of shade too. I've found one particular old pair are best for riding in so maybe try a new prescription and ask the optician for advice on lenses??
Hi ikb, are you still riding the 242? What gearing did you settle on? My own has the standard 10/38 but feel it's too high for modern twinshock trials.
OTF has been looking in my garage I think! Saracens with 125 and 200 Sachs motors, another 125 Sachs in a 1970 Sprite and an unwealdly looking Minarelli DOT.
The 125 Saracen is very low and lacking power for todays classic trials whereas the 125 Sprite with it's iron barrel seems to have a bit more low down go in it but the wheelbase is very short.
Although the DOT steers very nicely I can't get the Minarelli geared low enough and it has a strange power band but I guess thats how they were in their day.
I'm thinking that my 200 Saracen Invader may have to be given a run out in this new series
I enjoyed my second ever ride in this amazing trial last weekend, the scenery, off road trails and organization are second to none. The start was at a very civilized Cotswold farm shop and cafe with plenty of level hard standing, toilets and complimentary bacon bun and coffee. With a well signed route of around 35 miles(?), experienced and friendly observers and perfect weather all the ingredients of a good trial were there.
I'm not experienced of riding "big" bikes but would have considered that all but a couple of nadgery sections were ideal for them so I think the section plotters got it spot on. Indeed it was the big bike sections and those nadgery bits that that took my marks.
The "interesting" bog section that Wallo mentions proved a bit more of a challenge for later runners after the sidecar drivers had enjoyed their somewhat more than gentle plod through
I'm sorry to disagree but on the re-print copy I purchased I was disappointed with the photo quality and returned it on those grounds. Perhaps later editions are improved?
The auction price of an original copy has now come down to near that of the new re-print and having won one recently am more than happy with the quality.
My 200 tank was also porous and in a rough condition. I left it in the open air for a week to allow any residue to evaporate and then gave it a thorough shaking with a handful of gravel and detergent inside to loosen any muck in there.
I then sealed it internally with one of the proprietary epoxy tank liners and let it cure for a week. Can't recall the exact make but a google search will bring up several suppliers. Not cheap but essential with modern fuel I think and worth following the instructions to the letter.
You don't say what area you are in but B&S in Kirkby in Ashfield can put you on to a superb tank painter who will make a great job, including graphics for around £100+
...trail bikes are all a compromise.. you either get to go fast on the road with a big bike and then struggle on the trail or sit high in the saddle and fall over when the going gets tough. I've had a beta 200.. too slow but brill on the trail, a Beta 400.. fast enough on road, a low seat but heavy going off road, a CCM404.. fast, agile and fun but again too tall for when the going gets tricky. I've now got a Fantic 300 kitted out for the road and trail with dual seat, lights and high gearing which is for me, just the job. Fast enough, light, low seat, and agile. And you can "wheelie" at will!lol
..Yes, I saw the Cheetah for sale in the auto jumble..but just too late to put a bid in. It went for 1700 pounds the seller told me. A fair price considering, I thought. Brian Dale was also at the show displaying his immaculate disc-braked model. The disc is mechanical and looks a robust bit of casting.
I'm just finishing an MH200 restoration but got away without reboring... but if you are anywhere near Derby I have the contact of a very good specialist in Borrowash where you can wait and watch the process being carried out. In box me for the number.
Hi Lee, on my 200 I simply bought a standard pair of pegs with the "U" type brackets and bolted them through and directly behind the existing brackets with a few tack welds to hold them in place. Result is about 1" lower and 1"further back.. job done
Historic Saracen..maybe
in Saracen
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I recently spotted this "hand-made" Saracen on ebay and at £4500 it didn't attract a bid..there's a surprise! The frame may originally have been Saracen but little else is period 1970
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Historic-Saracen-Highlander-off-road-motorbike-Honda-engine-trials-scrambler-/323929875143?nma=true&si=z1xH0WvUkucAixtoPain0iCw94g%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557