Bought a demo model with 10 hours on it, immaculate, without a scratch. Sold it after 12 months after repeated and expensive problems.
Other riders with 2018/2019 model put 500 hours on their bikes without any problem, so I guess it was just bad luck on my side, but I preferred to switch to a simple, cheap and easy to fix bike like TRS.
Oh, by the way,the Vertigo rode great, when it was fixed.
300 R with black slow throttle for me, just perfect. Smooth at the bottom but plenty of power as I'm kind of on the heavy side (90 kg)... Never tried a TRS 250 though, they're kind of rare here in Italy.
Upcoming in the next months (depending on Covid-19): the R version of 2020 models, the mandatory Lampkin replica and a Busto replica. So enough to choose from
The 2020 R model has been available for at least a couple of months now.
Three kicks to start from cold is normal. Engage the kickstart with the throttle closed and prime it with a soft push through the stroke, second kick engage top of stroke again and push through with some throttle on. It will go on the third kick with a swift kick from the top and approx. quarter throttle kept on as you kick through, it needs throttle to start don't roll it off.
I also had a 2019 Vertigo. I confirm what @the dabster said.
I also had a Montesa 4rt and you definetely have to put more energy in the way you kick.. Lot more strenght.
What I never solved was the tendency of my 2019 Vertigo kickstarter lever to not fully return to the upright position... Tried changing the oil seal, tried greasing it, tried degreasing it, tried filing down the kickstart shaft with ultra fine sandpaper... But nothing helped. It improved a little when the engine got hot.... Go figure.
I've had chance to ride the E Pure race today, and what a difference to the old bikes!!
It can be ridden just like a conventional petrol bike. No need to change your riding style drastically. You almost forget you're on electric, I kept going for the gear lever!!!
The clutch works perfectly, The build quality is there, the performance is there, let's see how they perform in the real world in back to back tests against the Repsol on the same sections. I'm pretty sure I can get it to do most stuff the Mont will do straight from the off.
I must admit I hated the old bikes, and was very sceptical, but this is a giant step forward. I'll get to throw it at some gnarly stuff tomorrow and keep you posted with some footage hopefully
I also had the chance to ride the new E Pure race model today, and I feel exactly like you did!
Having a conventional hydraulic clutch is a major advantage, it makes you feel right at home!
Stabily, maneuvrability and the extra precise throttle response gives mega traction.
I basically used only the soft map, the racing/red map was brutal, the bike would pop into a wheelie with only a little turn of the throttle... Only for pros!
They really did a great job, the improvement is unbelievable....
Top end model with top components is said to be around 10.000€...
My motorbike had a much bigger problem, which was fixed, several parts were changed under warranty after speaking with the aftersales department in Spain.
Now the bike runs almost perfect and I figure it would be "part of the game" to fine tune it to make it run like I think it is the correct way. It's a learning process which I find very interestig and amusing.
But you are correct, I should not be forced to buy the tuning device... And I am not :-) It's like a game to me, albeit an expensive one :-(
@tcrhino I only lightly spray with Motorex filter oil like I did for the past several years, so I doubt that could be the problem....
The wificom comes with limited instructions. There’s a video showing you how to install it on the Vertigo website but little or nothing about how to use it. I couldn’t find anything for the Vertigo on YouTube either but if you search for KTM or Husqvarna tpi bikes you’ll find plenty of stuff from North America showing you how it works.
Yes, I've seen the promotional video from Vertigo but that's just that, a promotional video, I was hoping for an instruction manual to come with the device. If that's not the case, you just gave me a very nice tip!
I’ve used the Wificom to adjust the fuelling and ignition timing to achieve a set up I prefer over stock. It also allows me to reset the throttle position sensor and check that the system and sensors are working correctly using the self diagnostics. Basically you can make the fuel/air ratio richer or weaker at different rev ranges and throttle openings to suit your riding style or the characteristics of your motor. You can only make adjustments when the bike is running. I consider it a good investment and source of entertainment.
Very interesting. That's the kind of informations I was looking for and couldn't find anywhere.
has anyone bought and experimented with the Athena Wificom for 2018/2019 Vertigo?
I was thinking about buying the device, as my 2019 Vertical 300 keeps running rich even on dry map, the spark plug gets sooty and overall the bike feels like it's running too rich at high revs (four stroking).
Air filter is always clean, tried different new spark plugs, fuel is 100 octane, fresh, 0,5% Motul 800 oil.
Dealer says bike is ok, which is 99,5% true, but I was thinking about turning the "carburation " leaner with the Wificom device.
I have a 2019 Vertigo and for some reason I keep getting a lot of transmission oil from the breather hose to the airbox, and from there the oil drips everywhere, it gets pretty messy.
I have heard from a Vertigo mechanic that the new Vertical R has a "oil catcher tank" inside the airbox so that the oil won't get all over the place, but in the Vertical R parts diagram I cannot find the drawing or the part number code....
Sounds daft, but check the rubber seal on the inside of the filler cap hasn’t dropped out whilst refuelling......
Nah, I really figured out it was mostly just the incredibly rich "wet" map....
Moreover, the 2019 maps use more fuel than the 2018 maps.
On 7/11/2019 at 3:56 PM, jacques blackburn said:
Same as you, I have a 2012 Ossa Factory and no problems with injection and only had to change wheel bearings and evreything work well with the bike. I also have a Montesa 300 RR and no problems with injection. I mostly use the Ossa and I bought the Montesa because Ossa is no more in production and I fear for when I will need unavailables parts. It is very sad that Ossa could not continue to improve this incredible motorcycle.
Yes, a real shame.
I also liked my 2014 Ossa.... Whenever I see a rare Ossa at the races, I can't help but stare and feel a little nostalgic.
Anch'io avevo lo stesso problema, ho risolto semplicemente mettendo nel circuito il liquidò della Evans. Costa un bel po' peró a me ha risolto l'ebollizione.
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translation of the above: I just solved the same problem with Evans coolant.
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Had a 2019 model, Vertigo 300.
Bought a demo model with 10 hours on it, immaculate, without a scratch. Sold it after 12 months after repeated and expensive problems.
Other riders with 2018/2019 model put 500 hours on their bikes without any problem, so I guess it was just bad luck on my side, but I preferred to switch to a simple, cheap and easy to fix bike like TRS.
Oh, by the way,the Vertigo rode great, when it was fixed.