Thanks for the advice I do just mess around with my mates I tried doing trials when I was younger I wasn’t taken with all the sitting about waiting for a turn we do some big hills rocks tree trunks sometimes make small sections we should do them more we’re all rubbish more dabs than a bingo marker my mates think I should go vertigo but Iv always liked the look of the gasser but never ridden one I feel my skill level would take a big jump on one iv probably not much chance of having a go to compare if i went 250 would it still have plenty of power up the hills i assume like rocks and stuff it would probably just as good thanks