Wow you are seriously out of touch with reality... Steve and I are both way past our prime as far as participating, I will give you that but we are both very passionate about growing the sport for the up and coming younger riders. Both Steve and I are heavily involved in putting on events on different ends of the country. Just last weekend I put on an indoor demo at the local motorcycle show in conjunction with Honda's red rider jr training to encourage more young people to get involved. Guess what the first question I was asked by the show organizer ... "do you have insurance" to which I was able to reply the same I do to the 6 local landowner whos properties we put on trials events at - "Yes we do! $5M in liability to cover the landowner." - I don't really give a sh!t about what anybody else in the world thinks. I do care that we are able to continue to put on events in our local area and we are making a concerted effort to improve the sport locally, nationally, and our riders are able to compete on the international stage if they so desire.
The past Canadian distributor is a great individual and has been extremely supportive of the sport of trials in Canada - pretty hard to build the sport without access to bikes! You are not truly suggesting OSSA going out of business was in some way the distributors fault are you? The role of distributer in Canada is far from easy - ask anyone that has tried (I know 4 personally and consider them all friends) I wish somebody would pickup Sherco as a distributor but it is a lot harder than you might think.
Sometimes fossils have a lot of very valuable history to share I wouldn't underestimate them if I where you.
BTW - Exactly what have you done to improve the sport (ever) ???
I havent been on the forums here in quite some time busy with work and lots of preparation behind the scenes with the Canadian Nationals/ FIM-NA Championship that will take place this Sept in Ioco BC. I am devestated to read that I am well past my prime as far as competing is concerned??? Sorry to disappoint Michael lol. Not sure where you got your intel from?
Just thought I would take the time to put this thread to bed so we can all get on with enjoying the sport, and for some of us continue working on bring it together Nationally once and for all.
As some statements on this thread are fact... and some not. It has been well known that for MANY years the MCC group which includes the WEC and so called WTC have been trying to get the FIM affiliation away from the CMA. It was only reported recently that an OFFICIAL application was made to the FIM. I can now tell you that this application has been rejected!
Now lets get on with things. Not everyone cares to start with. But some of us do and have been trying to do things the right way. There are some very good people involved who have cared about the sport and will continue to. Happy riding!
CMA does not represent the bulk of motorcycle competitions in Canada. #timesupcma
Below sound like a sensible and sustainable position to start...
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MCC will continue pursuing FIM affiliation. “MCC’s primary vision is to be the voice of motorcycling in Canada and this vision would be exemplified through an affiliation with the international motorcycling body FIM,” explains Dave Millier, MCC Chair. “MCC was created as a national body to represent motorcyclists and is strongly positioned as the leading organization to represent Canada on an international stage.”
MCC will continue to look for opportunities to engage the entire Canadian racing community, including hosting additional meetings, either in-person or online, and through a national survey. The results will be used to generate a national racing strategy and vision for off-road racing in Canada."
Considering all that is going on in the world with womens rights and their fight to have a voice and make a change....your hashtag seems pretty inappropiate. You may want to edit that one. We are only talking about motorcycles here.
Hey Steve, who is sitting on the current TAC? I haven't seen much news recently other than you and John working on the FIM NA initiative..
I didn't realize that Marilynn was FIM pres for all of NA - When I spoke to her before she said CMA would not support events outside of Canada but I see she was a member of the Jury for the TdN last year has CMA changed their position on out of country events (or was this in relation to her FIM NA role) ?
Michael:
There are some changes coming to the Tac this year. Not fair to be posting it on a forum until the parties involved have been spoken with. I can tell you that we are working on a position as a PR manager who will be responsible for doing a better job of getting information out.
I sincerely think that you have somehow mis-interpreted some info you may have received through Marilynn. I cannot speak for her, but, of course the CMA supports events and riders riding event outside of Canada! That has been and will be the case going forward. The importance of a PR manager is important for insances like this...
You should also know that as well as being the President of Fim-NA, Marilynn is a long time member on the board of the FIM and is well respected.
Some major in-accuracies in your post. CANADA and the CMA, as part of the FIM family have a major role. Trials IS at the forefront of that. We are part of the Newly formed FIM-NA. Myself and members of the Trials Advisory Commitee have communicated and sat in on meetings with Reps from the Fim and the new TrialGP promoter. I can tell you that trials in Canada is of concern to both parties.
Many things with our sport have been neglected for sometime. It may not affect YOUR personal enjoyment or involvement, but no can tell you it does affect the sport. I will also suggest and in fact I know, that anyone involved with WEC....WTC...or whatever they want to call themselves, doesn' fully understand all of this. Despite this announcement I do not think that the CMA will be losing the FIM affiliation anytime soon. I think this announcement is purely a self promotion tactic.
None of this is new news. I am well aware to the facts about all of it. Again, reading that press release does make the general public being mislead. But, the nature of this and the timing is pretty curious. Again, you are speculating about some stuff too. Its all of our rights to do so but that is all it is.
Interesting news....although " officially" the intent has been known for many years. Even though users of this forum have denied it profusely. The press release doesn' say how many people were at this summit.It doesn't say where the people were from. I would caution people to understand that just because someone prints or says something, unless its backed up with facts it becomes detremental. In the case of our sport of trials it only seems to have fractured an already small group.Far too many mis-truths mis-leading too many people. Seemingly and factually involving many cases of conflict of interests. Stay tuned.
Hi Jay. Yes to ride in Donner you will need the Natc requirements for number plate and jersey. This is a US National that is counting towards the FIM-NA championship.
This is something we ( the CMA- TAC and the Natc/Ama ) have discussed as far back as last year. It is being worked on! As for the FIM-NA designated events this year, all US riders can enter the Canadian event and use their AMA license with no need to hold a CMA license. The same will apply for Canadian riders who will be riding the event in the Donner area.
It should also be noted for riders on both sides of the border that there will be a full complement of classes for all to ride and compete for the FIM-NA crown, not just the top Pro and Expert riders. I will have more info soon and will post the classes available.
Sounds good Jay. It is a pretty cool opportunity for riders on both sides of the border to ride and compete in two of the most iconic trials areas in North America on back to back weekends. There will be classes for everyone and of course the chance to see the best Pro riders in action. Much more details will be coming out in Jan. Hopefully you know that all you need is your CMA competition license which can be used for both the Canadian and US Rounds.
Toby must be one of the favourites for the Trial 2 championship in 2018. the SPEA guys riding 300RR Monts were 2nd & 3rd in the 2017 championship, so I think the bikes are up to it if the rider is.
It is probably a fairer comparison between the 300rr Montesa and the Beta 4t as the displacement is comparable.I have spent a fair amount of time on the Beta 4t and now own a 300rr. Both are good bikes and I wouldn't want to come off as bad mouthing one over the other. You can direct message me if you would like some input.
Its not run by amateurs anymore.....Trial is the last of the FIM disciplines to be run by a professional promoter. I think you should do a little research and ask some questions. I was fortunate enough to be able to attend an FIM meeting at the TrialGP event in the USA and the Jake was in attendance as well. He gave a clear vison and the amount of work they have done with such short notice this year I think is to be commended.
Its too bad really... I really do believe though that this new format and TrialGP is on the right track. I hope the factories can see that being a partner and supporting more riders is better for the sport long term and them as well.
Well what an absolute pleasure it was to have James and Jack here in Ioco last weekend to do their schools, The group was split into Junior/int level and Adv/Exp levels. This way each group was able to spend a half day with each of the guys. You could not meet two more personable people In Jack and James, and everyone who attended not only got some good instruction but also shared some good laughs throughout the day. It was really an experience no one will ever forget and I think its true to say that the guys have gained many new fans here. Thank you to everyone who attended, the CPTA club for hosting the event, and James Dabill and Jack Price for extending there stay in North America after the TrialGP event in Arizona and coming up to Canada for this.
Just an update on the James Dabill/ Jack Price school happening this weekend. There are only a few spots left, but thankfully the guys have said that no one will be turned away. If you are still interested in attending, you can show up on the day with your money and you will be able to spend the day with 2 of the top riders in the world. Both James and Jack rode really well in Kingman AZ this past weekend and it was a real treat for us Canadians in attendance to witness it all. Don't miss out on a chance of a lifetime to get some tips from these great riders.
I would say it is very similar. I was a bit worried about what oil to use and could find the Elf anywhere. So I was quite relieved to know that using the Amsoil supershift has not changed anything in the way the clutch works at all
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