as iow Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Well done Benny and the team, good trial. Problem..Hugh gap between front runners and the average kids. Difficult for C of Course. Results 125 1 Jack Sheppard.................2 2 Richard Sadler..................3 3 Kelan Hancock.................9 80cc 1 George Gosden................7 2 Jake evans Luter..............15 3 Chris Stay.........................17 D class 1 Lee Sealy 2 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordi Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 For a British championship, much to easy. Winner should be on around 20. Sorry, just could not resist it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehin Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Good trial, must ave taken them ages to put out all that tape, can't please everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpro Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 I agree with you AS. Jordi has a point, but when the lad in 5th place on the 80cc C class drops over 100 marks how can the organisers be critised ? Perhaps, 3 section everyone can clean, 4 middleish & 3 real tester to sort the top lads out. If the less able lads are fiving a section which is too easy for the top lads, they won't be any worse off if you make few sections real stoppers. Well done the Surrey team, see you all at Bracken Rocks next week. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as iow Posted May 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 For a British championship, much to easy. Winner should be on around 20. Sorry, just could not resist it Your right but top lads under 20 while some kids over 150, About time the ACU had a youth trials league like football. no age limit but graded on ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 How would you grade ability then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as iow Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 How would you grade ability then? Easy, call the class's youth... expert, inter, novice and beginer. only have two championship class,s......Expert & inter. use novice & beginer trials to qualify to ride in championships. have say 10 national novice & beginer trials all over country through the year. top 3 beginer's from each trial go up to novice at the next event. Top 3 novice's from each trial qualify to ride in the British inter championship the following year. No age limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpaf Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I don't think ability classes would be a good idea at all - how would an 'expert' class rider get a ride if they couldn't get to the qualifying rounds? I think the format is fine as it is. The only problem is when the organisers are catering for riders who are just not up to National standard - its one of the reasons we don't do to many national trials. A few years ago we drove 600 miles round trip to Wales, dropped two marks and finished 2nd! It was an absolute waste of time and money. Nationals should be tough they're supposed to be 'testing the best' riders in Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as iow Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Once a rider qualified to ride in the main championship he would'nt need to ride in the Novice/ beginner trials again. He/she would simply be given a ACU licence number that would automaticly tell the organisers of the championship trial, that the rider has qualified to ride in the event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Sadly AS under any scrutiny it doesn't seem to work. Your son would have qualified for the inter class by riding novice so he would sit out the rest of the year and then ride sections similar to B class? Also what would the cc restriction be? Also if 3 novices at each trial qualify doesn't that equal 30? etc etc. Cannot see the benefit plus there are always the odd rider who seems to appear from Yorkshire aged 15/16 who is really good would they have to wait a year before they could compete in the expert grade? The beaty of the A and B system is that it is clear to all that the best rise to the top and they are of a similar age, and if they are good enough (like Alexz) the ACU can always upgrade a year earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as iow Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 This is reality....Will West came fifth in last years B classs 250 championship,and now because of his age he has to ride the A course. After three rounds of this years championship he has decided that he is in his own words ( crap ) and decided not to ride in any more nationals after Matlock. If he could ride in a lower class that suited his ability he would still be keen to ride. At the C/D class nationals, i've seen 15/16 year old lads riding the D route and finding that hard work, i feel shore that the present system dicorages some lads from riding the nationals,== a lot of time and effort from the organising club for about 40 riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpro Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Whether it's a Youth C & D National or a British adult Championship trial with Dougie, Jarvis & Colley etc..... the difference in the ability between the top few and the rest is massive. For the youngsters, those kids who this year are at the top of the results, were the ones dropping 150 marks last year or the year before. The learning curve is steep. Every week these riders are learning new skills, so it's hardly surprising that over 3 years (the amount of time in one class) the difference between the 'new boys' and the 'big lads' is going to be huge. My sympathes are with the Clerk of the Course. He can't win !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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