funtrials Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) From: http://en.wikipedia....ld_Championship Fifty percent more British riders (6) have won the world outdoor title than Spanish riders (4). "Spanish domination"?? WHAT "Spanish domination"!? In terms of total titles, there have only been four riders in history that are better than Marc Colomer. I did not know that. So Colomer is, by that metric, better than all of these riders: -Fuji -Sammy Miller Products -LeJeune -King Bernie -The FIM trials council member from France who I don't really like right now -Vesty -Mick Andrews -Cabestany -The UK Sherco importer who really chewed out the UK GasGas importer last year on Trials Central about the Dibs/Brown issue. -Ahvala -Alfie Lampkin's Grandfather -Don Smith -Franke -Karlson -Bernie's brother in law The indoor series has been running for 21 years, and a there have only been TWO individuals that were not from SPAIN to ever score world titles indoors (Dougie and Ahvala). I’m going to start drinking bottled water from Spain, because it must be “something in the water” that makes them so good at riding around with their feet up! This millenium, only 1 manufacturer (with only one rider) besides Montesa Honda has won the outdoor world title. Ossa, Zundapp, and Greeves each have more world titles than Sherco, or SWM, or Scorpa. WTF!? The USA, and Sweden, and that perennial power-house of world trials - Germany, each have more world titles than the Italians. Sorted by total wins (just click on the column header) indoors, Spain, in the top 7, has 250% more than the rest of the world COMBINED. (Does trials training begin in the WOMB in that country?) Laia is a goddess, obviously. Can you name ANY other sport where someone has won it every year but one? No, you can’t. Can you name ANY other sport were someone was world champion 12 different years?....Schumacher (nope), Michael Jordon (nope), Tiger (nope)...... Come on, admit it, none of you knew that the world trials championship used to actually be called “Challenge Henry Groutards”. :-) A Spanish rider has won the last TWELVE indoor world titles, and counting! All but 7 of the last 26 years have been won by just THREE different guys. Gods, in my opinion. Finland, France, German, and Belgium each have more world titles than the Japanese. FINLAND has more world titles than any other country in trials history (except for Britain and Spain.) WTF!? At the last world round, ONE country (Spain - surprise!) had 5 times as many riders in the top ½ dozen spots as the rest of the other 230 countries in the entire world combined.....COMBINED. Britain has more outdoor titles (17) than any other country. So arguably Britain is the best trials country in history? Si! So if you're British, stand up right now, hold up a pint, and repeat proudly "Viva Britainia, we're the best trials riders in the world!" The USA and Sweden each have as many world titles as the Japanese. (So let's just assume that we Americans are just as good of trials riders as the Japanese, ok? Ok, good, I'm glad we settled that argument.) In all those years, there was only one rider who won an indoor title but never an outdoor title (Cabestany, one of my favorite riders.) I like Sherco, but they’ve never won a world title (not YET at least.) Scorpa has won more. Fujinami (maybe my favorite rider) has more “runner up” titles than maybe anyone in any sport, ever. It doesn’t list that here, but can someone tell us how many times he was “runner up”? I THINK he’s been #2 more times than any trials rider has ever been #1. Look, maybe we Americans should probably stick with with what we're good at....say, motocross.....or shooting people......or saving the French from the Germans – look, I don’t really know, I'm just saying... Look, I'm trying to be POSITIVE here, so, uh, let me just say it this way: Canadians, and Russians, and Norwegians are really really good at hockey. HOCKEY. I love my GasGas, which is maybe currently the world wide leader in trials sales, but interestingly, only ONE lone rider has ever won an indoor title on a GasGas, which is the same number of riders as have won it on that trials juggernaut known as Aprilia (yes, Aprilia.) A Spanish manufacturer has won the manufacturer’s award every year this millenium. From: http://www.fim-live....orld-champions/ The Italians and the Outer Mongolians have each won exactly the same number of world trials titles. I know you're all quite surprised by this, but it's actually true. I'm not joking here, seriously, they have NOT even done better than the Italians. Bultaco holds the record for most consecutive wins, and they incredibly did it with FOUR DIFFERENT riders in that period. Viva Bultaco! To make things more FAIR, can we just all agree that from now on we’re going to just BAN the Spanish from world trials, mkay? What other interesting facts can you point out from this? Edited June 15, 2013 by funtrials 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greychapel Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Love it! as the say there are lies, damn lies and statistics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtrials Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Love it! as the say there are lies, damn lies and statistics! I just might also be able to whip up some statistics that prove conclusivley that Rosie O'Donnell is more attractive than super-model Gisele Bündchen is. It won't be easy, but I think I can do it (hey, if statistics like in the OP can show that we Americans are just as good of trials riders as the Japanese are then hey, no problem!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0007 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Canadians are exceptional trials riders It's just that we are so polite we let everyone else have the glory "Hey guys, sorry for that, il just put an apologetic foot down" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtrials Posted June 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Canadians are exceptional trials riders It's just that we are so polite we let everyone else have the glory "Hey guys, sorry for that, il just put an apologetic foot down" Truth be told, the Canadians I've met are exceptional trials riders AND exceptional people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Canadians are exceptional trials riders It's just that we are so polite we let everyone else have the glory "Hey guys, sorry for that, il just put an apologetic foot down" All the Canadians that I see and hang out with at Michigan Ontario Trials Association (M.O.T.A.) events are great people, not just polite but infinitely helpful. Excellent Trials riders but......... they are a bit kooky I must say. (takes a kook to know one ) OH and some interesting things mentioned in that original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Surely most of those 6 Brits must have won back in the day of no stop so can't possibly be taken seriously as World Champions funtrials? Edited June 16, 2013 by 2stroke4stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtrials Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 All the Canadians that I see and hang out with at Michigan Ontario Trials Association (M.O.T.A.) events are great people, not just polite but infinitely helpful. Excellent Trials riders but......... they are a bit kooky I must say. (takes a kook to know one ) OH and some interesting things mentioned in that original post. Obviously it's because their beer legally has a higher alcohol content than the USA does. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtrials Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Surely most of those 6 Brits must have won back in the day of no stop so can't possibly be taken seriously as World Champions funtrials? They COULD have stopped/hopped, because stop-allowed rules were in place for many years in world trials, off and on. They just weren't talented enough to do it, apparently. It is interesting to see how, last year when the fun rules were in place, how riders like Bou/Raga could ride circles around Martin/Vesty in terms of what they can do today vs. what those guys could do in the mid 70's. I watched world rounds with Rathmell/Coutard et al back in the day, and it's great that the sport has progressed (except for the FIM wanting to take us back to those days) so far. Today's riders are gods (when the FIM doesn't take way their super-powers) compared to the mere mortals of yester-year. The clutches, the lightness of the bikes(!), the suspensions, the more powerful motors, grippier tires, the weight-training/nutrition, and the new riding techinques, etc. all have contributed to that, son I'm NOT trying to impune the old riders personally. I'm sure that 2027 World Champion Alfie Lampkin will make Mr. Bou of today look about as bad as Alfie's dad makes ME look today. I couldn't even flip the back end of my Fantic around in 1983 as an in-shape 20 year old, but now as a real old fat geeser I CAN do it on my GasGas! The new Factory Replica Gassers, that the public can buy, are what, 140 pounds...but the TL250's were less powerful, and weighed 230 pounds! My TL125 had a pathetic weight-to-power ratio compared to today's new hotness. I love progress. Hopefully the FIM does not pine for days gone by. Edited June 17, 2013 by funtrials 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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