I've recently bought a TY175 that has what I believe to be an (early) Majesty frame, with the frame modifications (upper shock mountings, lower frame/bash plate) found on these. It's been yellow, overpainted silver, so I'm sure that I'll be able to get at enough of the original (?) yellow paint to get a colour match done at a paint specialist. If I do, I'll post the results here.

Meanwhile, does anybody know what shade of yellow was used? I've already posted that Paul Cowley, of Shedworks, uses RAL1003, Signal Yellow, for the yellow replica components he makes. And does anyone know who did the original paint finish on the Majesty frames? Thanks. John

Hi Show us all a few pictures of your Majesty find

The original yellow was a pretty insipid pale puke yellow. I used 1021 when I did mine, much nicer, but it is too deep if you want original. Signal yellow is too 'yellow' as well. I think 1016 is closer to original.

There have been other mentions on the forum of it being British Leyland yellow

Here you are... I've posted images showing the shock mounts and the lower frame/bash plate. Any comments gratefully received (especially if you agree with me.)

The bike still has Girling gas shocks, as you can see. It has a 175 engine of standard bore, and the engine and frame numbers don't match, so I've concluded that, if it is a Majesty frame, it was probably bought as a frame kit and was never a 200. Does that make sense to you experts?

On one image you'll see the yellow paint showing through - and yes, it's a pale yellow. Subjectively it's more like the RAL1016 that Woody mentioned. I know this is nit-picky stuff, and I apologise to those members who aren't much bothered what shade of yellow was used. It may help restorers, though.

Nit picky stuff fits right in here

It's a Yamaha frame, not a Godden, so not a frame kit, non-matching numbers could simply be due to an engine swap at some point.

As a Majesty conversion it could have been a 175 or 200, or it could be as above, the original engine was swapped at some point. Not unusual on a near 40 year old trials bike.

I don't know enough about the 175 Majesty conversions to say whether that is a proper Majesty conversion or not.

I don't know enough about the 175 Majesty conversions to say whether that is a proper Majesty conversion or not.

Hi,

Yes, John's frame is a Majesty conversion, it is an early Majesty frame. Diffrérents details on the photos clearly show it, and I have the same with same mods at home...

Charlyxty, I am interested what details were you picking up from those photos that convinced you that this is a real early majesty?

Tobster. The tone of your question suggests that you don't think my bike has a genuine early Majesty frame. If I'm right, why are you sceptical? I'd like to have as many opinions as possible. John

not at all, i was just interested what charley had seen to convince him that your bike is genuine. I too have a ty175 majesty (with a silver frame) and am always keen to other majesty's

OK, thanks. I'm glad I got it wrong... Any chance of seeing images of your Majesty? John

John, I will certainly take some pictures. Are you interested in close ups of any particular area?

tobster, thanks, that's kind. I'd be most interested in the bottom of the frame, the bash-plate and its mounting points and the shock mounting points. I think my frame is a second iteration of the Yamaha frame development, that had both shock mountings and lower frame/bash plate modified, though I may be wrong. I reached this conclusion from comparing with images I found on line over a number of months. Woody and Charlyxty are the only people to have commented to date, so I remain uncertain.

Charlyxty, I am interested what details were you picking up from those photos that convinced you that this is a real early majesty?

Hi tobster,

I show you 4 pictures and you will make your opinion :

aha, they look pretty much like John's photos, though his are a bit less yellow!!! I'll have to have a good took at my frame at those areas too - fingers crossed