January 21, 20197 yr I think by the time you built your frame and bought all the parts like brakes, forks, shocks, tank, plastics ... you would find things really added up, the gearing and clutch would not be ideal and your resale would be very low - but maybe a fun project none the less ? Edited January 21, 20197 yr by michael_t
January 21, 20197 yr 22 minutes ago, michael_t said: I think by the time you built your frame and bought all the parts like brakes, forks, shocks, tank, plastics ... you would find things really added up, the gearing and clutch would not be ideal and your resale would be very low - but maybe a fun project none the less ? Like this?
January 21, 20197 yr 2 hours ago, sectionone said: If someone wanted to make their own bike they could buy a Chinese crate engine, build frame and source other parts. There's even a 2 stroke option with electric start with counterbalancer. Engines would probably cost half or less if bought from the source. The horizontal pit bike engines would have a lot of low end grunt. The Chinese even make a KTM 105cc 2 stroke clone engine which would be very light and good for trials if tuned correctly. I think most people in Europe would want a European engine though. Otherwise just buy the ready made Chinese bike. There is real consumer resistance to Chinese stuff (as we can see on the thread). I was thinking originally about a UK brand like AJS or Matchless that could be a real marketing tool. If I am honest I have no idea if there would be a market for such a bike - the Triumph bikes are mass market road bikes and the new Norton (I want one...) is a top end machine for rich people but again a road bike. Trials is more about competence than branding and the top riders already are brand ambassadors. You might just get Rotax powered bikes seen as "British" but not a Chinese engined one.
January 21, 20197 yr On 1/9/2019 at 10:25 AM, ChrisCH said: On 1/9/2019 at 10:25 AM, ChrisCH said: I think it would be possible to revive a UK brand, but clearly developing a new engine is not cost effective. The obvious thing is to buy in an engine The obvious one being Rotax as they are one of the few manufacturers that sell just engines. I have no idea if the Rotax is suitable for this application? They are sold for go-karts and I would think therefore have a different power delivery to that which a trials bike needs. You may like to check out SWM trials motorcycles around 1977and the Armstrong or Aprilia trials bikes or the Scorpa 294/ 295 works trials bike and the Scorpa Easy model trials bikes made in the 90's. Edited January 21, 20197 yr by oni nou
January 22, 20197 yr Anything is possible but as stated above costs to get to production are too great, anything other than a purpose made engine wouldnt do, regardless of if it sells enough, which it wont.
January 22, 20197 yr Purpose made I consider my Yamaha TTr generator engine fitted in the Scorpa far superior to any current disposable offering. Pity it only gives you about 10 inches of clearance.
February 9, 20197 yr Its gotten awfully quite..How are the new owners enjoying the tenaciwongs, all smiles still, any problems?
February 9, 20197 yr I they live like us in Canada, they are probably looking outside and swearing ! Guy
February 9, 20197 yr Actually that was the first internet rumor they had to deal with... which they did by posting a noise test on facebook showing the current version is quieter than a GG at idle and half throttle. It has been super cold the last few weeks but they will be bringing a demo down for the motorcycle show here in Nova Scotia the first weekend in March (indoor). Looking forward to seeing one in person.
February 9, 20197 yr if you listen to what they say they have carried out work to quieten it down, they said. NOT a rumour
February 9, 20197 yr It's hardly a rumour - you only have to listen to the videos to hear the hideous racket (compared to other four strokes on video) . "Locals" don't care about meter readings, just what they can hear. Edited February 9, 20197 yr by 2stroke4stroke
February 9, 20197 yr Just great that they were able to address it so quickly... nice thing about working with a small company eager to please their customers.
February 9, 20197 yr Surely an enthusiastic importer should not have to be bodging up the exhaust on a machine produced in 2018 by one of the world's biggest manufacturing nations? While that test was not carried out to the FIM standard it doesn't lead me to think that the bike would pass such a test, which involves full throttle.
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