What I want to know is: 1 - can I retrofit Tickover on my 2021 Race? Why not?
2 - Where to get the FRB button?
1) The tickover modes are separate maps in the controller. To have it on a 2021 would require being able to install/change new maps. To date, I have seen nothing around the ability to do this after the bikes leave the factory. Montesa provides for map changes on the 4RT, so it would be cool if EM allowed the same.
2) You can get the factory button from your EM dealer. However, if I were to add one, John at Kauila Motors (kauilamotors@gmail.com) has one that is a small, single-finger, lever instead of a button. To me, using your index finger to pull a trigger, rather than your thumb to push a button, is a far better solution. Plus, the one John sells is considerably cheaper.
...the thought of accidentally giving the button one push when I intended two gives me the willies.
I didn't snap till just recently that the audible sound is different for each map. I am going to have to pay more attention and learn which is which, rather than peaking down at the light color.
Has anyone ridden one with the tickover feature that can explain how it works?
I saw a video, just yesterday, of a user demoing tickover. The map button has moved to the left handlebar, and if I understood correctly, there are twice as many map options. 3 without tickover and 3 with. First click was normal 125 mode, second click was 125 with tickover, etc. What tickover does is simulate idle. With it turned on, you MUST pull in the clutch to stop, just as with a petrol bike. Essentially, it just spools up the electric motor a bit so that it cannot drop to zero power out. You could take your hand off the throttle and idle around as you would with a running engine.
It might be nice, but I don't think I am going to lose sleep over mine not having it. For a fresh convert to the bike, it is a shock when you first start learning that turning the throttle fully off immediately stops forward momentum. You just sort of learn not to go totally back to zero, unless you want that.
Has anyone ridden one with the tickover feature that can explain how it works?
Very curious to here about that, as well. I am hoping that EM gets into supporting controller updates. Montesa allows you to flash a new map to their fuel injection. Nice if we could flash new features (such as Tickover) and maps, to ours. For example, I really have ZERO use for 300 mode, but it would be nice to have a map sitting between 125 & 250 mode instead.
What is the engine braking feel compared to the 300RR?
E-Pure
SL350
Cota 349
Sherpa 159
How did I go?
Even with the Race models flywheel weights, there is essentially no engine braking. I thought that might be a big concern on downhills, but the brakes are so incredibly good, it is not an issue. Different than engine braking, but in the same vein, is how quickly rolling off the throttle stops forward momentum. A petrol engine will fire, Sith some authority, several more times after you roll off the throttle. Not so with this bike. Turn off the throttle and the motor output follows IMMEDIATELY. Very much an adjustment curve. Especially for things like double-blips, for crossing logs and such.
Surprised you could see enough of the 349 to identify it! That is a 1982 that I just finished restoring. Restoration Video
The Sherpa is the bit more rare, in the US anyway, 1976 Model 158. The SL350 is a 1973, with 2,700 miles, from a barn find estate sale! Mind blown when I found that one. Not in the photos is my 1970 SL100, that I have owned since new, I am currently in the reassembly steps of restoring it.
After an excruciating wait, my 2021 ePure Race arrived last week. First real outing last Saturday at our practice area. Just an amazing bike. Coming off a Cota 300RR, there is certainly a learning curve. You only think your throttle control is good until you get on one of these! Instant torque is a thing to behold.
Nice. But Im in Texas... shipping will be more expensive than the bike....
Did you ever find a bike? What part of Texas are you in? I am south of Houston. Our club STTA is a good place to start, if you are close by. Shipping is not as horrible as you might imagine. You can take a look at the used bikes at the Tryals Shop. Mike occasionally has some lower cost bikes.
My son and daughter-in-law just rode a trials event last weekend with the South Texas Trials Association. The event was at Rio Bravo in northeast Houston. Here's a link:
according to the website, they meet at Rio Bravo almost every Saturday..
Dennis
Yes, we do. Rio is not friendly to rain, so that is usually the only thing that prevents us from being out there! That is why you see the link to the rain gauge, that I added to the website. Come on out and join us. I am in Pearland, so we are practically neighbors.
Once jetted properly, I loved mine. Owned it for almost 3 years. Only reason I went back to 2-stroke Evo was money. You pay more for the 4-stroke new, and then sell it way below value used, due to the smaller number of buyers, that want a 4-stroke.
I agree.I wasn't Rossi bashing, he's obviously very talented.I was thinking that if his stock hasn't fallen then Hayden's must have risen! Ducati aren't benefitting from the extra money they pay Rossi above what Hayden gets appart from the publicity, which is a double edged sword.
Not sure the "publicity" is all that good. A follower of MotoGP knows how good Rossi is. That fact that he performs so poorly, on a Ducati, does not translate into a desire for me to own their bikes. Why would you want to go buy a Ducati when one of the best riders in the world cannot make it perform?
I just run the A747? I don't seem to get the same problems as everyone else. I do put a tank or two of Putoline strawberry stuff in if I am going out with the boys sometime but thats only if I doubt fuel range etc so we can share fuel.
I also get it hot at least once a ride. I think these two processes together must help burn off deposits before they form?
I fully underatnd that the synth oils are specifically designed for trials use but I do like the smell of A747. I might have to try adding a dollop of castor in to a jam jar with a putoline mix and see if it gells up. If not I might try it.
Just smear a little castor on your nose. Then you can smell it all you want while still using proper synthetic, in your bike.
Buy a 4RT its easy then its 50% petrol mixed with 50% petrol
Other people have used a 60% and 40% ratio and it dosen't really make any difference to how sweet the motor runs!!!!!
Granted. I have done the 4-stroke route. I found the oil filter changes to be far more of a pain in the rear than mixing 2-stoke fuel. Especially, with the Ratio-Rite mixing cup.
Always amazed at folks struggling to save grams of weight, here and there, and what they will pay to do it. Meanwhile, a lot more weight could be saved, for free, by simply pushing back away from the table, a little sooner.
Owned one for almost two years. Great bike. Rejet on the carb is a must. Opening the exhaust, and removing all the cross brace rods was very worthwhile, as well. The other biggie was a clutch kit from B&J Racing. Made a HUGE difference in the smooth progression of the clutch.
2021 ePure Race
in EM (Electric Motion)
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1) The tickover modes are separate maps in the controller. To have it on a 2021 would require being able to install/change new maps. To date, I have seen nothing around the ability to do this after the bikes leave the factory. Montesa provides for map changes on the 4RT, so it would be cool if EM allowed the same.
2) You can get the factory button from your EM dealer. However, if I were to add one, John at Kauila Motors (kauilamotors@gmail.com) has one that is a small, single-finger, lever instead of a button. To me, using your index finger to pull a trigger, rather than your thumb to push a button, is a far better solution. Plus, the one John sells is considerably cheaper.