From memory, the only time these bikes were really noisy was when the weld broke on the main pipe next to the barrel, seem to remember it was a regular fault. They also required regular repacking of the silencer as oil up quickly, hope this helps.
The 50and 80 are totally different engines, as far as I know you can't put an 80 on the 50. From memory both engines are KTM so maybe someone who knows more about KTM engines could help.
hi ran these for the last couple of years on a 125, absolutely no problems wheel runs much smoother and less drag. Quality chain no problems with breaking despite some heavy use seem to last well too.
hi you need new spacers i think one is larger and the other standard. The disc needs spacing a couple of mm from memory and you can grind down the disc to fit as a new one is quite dear
To be honest its a no brainer, go for the Beta the reason why everyone one rides them is that its really the only 80,just look at the nationals. The Gasser looks the part but the engine seems rubbishin comparison to the beta. The beta is relatively bomb proof, if you get newer than a 2008 you also get improved suspension. However with the exception of that here is little difference from 03 to today. We are scarborough members and had 4 from 2004 to 2007 and can't really fault them and any problems Lampkins soon helped out
Yes sorry I have to agree with all said before. Not a Championship trial and defintely not worth the time, money and effort getting there, and that was the rider not the parent saying that. Trials at this level should have sections to attack and not be the minute you make one mistake the day is over!
He can compete on a 125 in the calendar year he is 13. Therefore if 13 before 31/12/09 can ride a 125 now, if not can't compete on a 125 until 1/1/10 Hope this helps
Just add a couple of washers to the exhaust side of the top rear shock bolt and reduce the thickness of the spacer on the bottom bracket on the rear master cylinder. On an 09 this allows the exhaust to clear the wheel by a long way
We have an ohlins on our 09 Gas Gas 125, and previously on a Sherco 125. For us it is worth it as we can get various springs to suit the correct weight of the rider as he grows. They appear to be more progressive and easy to set definitely better than the Sherco Olle but cannot comment on the Sachs as we have never used it. They seem to wear very well and are fully rebuildable and so far 2 years down the line we have no complaints they can also be altered for a cost to fit different bikes.
it depends what you mean by uprated. the 2 alternatives were a longer standard shock or a recon rev3 shock which did require a little bit of modifiction to the swinging arm to fit. it depends on how heavy the kid and what the limitation is of the present shock. both types were available direct from Lampkins though neither way especially cheap. the longer shock gave more travel , but the rev3 gave more adjustment providing the kid was both heavy and tall enough as the seat height rose a lot. Hope this helps.
from memory both jobs are relatively easy, especially fork seals. the easiest place to get both seals are from Lampkins as i remember the fork seals are slightly unusual either 10 or 11mm thick although you can get away with a thinner standard seal, but lampkins are reasonably priced anyway
have to agree seems a bit crazy especially as both rounds seem to be run by emra. Pity clubs such as Y&G or richmond didn't get one can't see the point of the same venue twice
C&D nationals are generally quite reasonable but bear in mind that generally the top kids in each class in the UK take part so there must be some sections to take marks of them. Generally there is a mix of harder and easier sections , something for everyone with a reasonable ability. No minders on bikes and generally the course takes account of this but not always where A&B is concerned. Scarborough 2 day and Ymsa 3 day are great youth trials and are an indication of national standards. Have a good time and don't stress generally only the parents are worried!!!
hi we too have an 09 gasser and it starts well. The only thing is it is very different to sherco and betas we have had that the gasser needs a very 'sharp' kick. push down gently to find compression then kick down sharply. I have been told to be careful with the kickstart mechanisms as they don't like continuous kicking. Hope this helps
The Beta 80 is the only real option unless the lad is quite big. Mechanically they are bullet proof. Suspension neeeds some mods on pre 2008. The new 08 has many improvements but again the lad needs to be quie big. A 2006 or 07 is a brilliant bike and ideal for any starter in C class as standard with upgrades possible as the rider improves.
I think a lot of the 05 sherco 80,s were in fact a 100cc unless the barrel was changed. In my opinion the Beta is a much better bike for kids unless very big as the beta is much smaller and lighter. The beta engines are bomb proof and the cycle parts pretty reliable. I am somewhat bias as we have had an 04,06 and 07 beta 80., despite having test ridden a sherco each year. I think you only have to look at the national results to see how few shercos there are as to which bike the kids prefer. We are also Eboracum members and if you are interested have both an 06 and 07 beta for sale cheers
Richmond's G E Brown & Son Trophy Trial pics
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Good pictures of a brilliant trial, well done to Richmond Club. Thanks