Krlewis34 has a great starting list and as for brake pedal not just moves freely but also having it out of adjustment. If there isn't at least a little play before the peddle starts to press the brake piston you will have this issue so you can try loosening the peddle a bit extra and see if that fix's it, if so they re-adjust to your preference.
Where I agree that you wouldn't want to lug the motor on a 125 I find using the clutch to not slip the wheel has been my best experience on my wife TXT Pro 125, unless the mud was building up in the tire and I was trying to clean out tire... Just my exp. (I should also include that this experience is from my first year on the bike in Seattle WA)
I have read one artical that indicated there is still some refinement planed before the final release date, so maybe a few of the little things will get sorted.
I believe younger can help for some, however I think its really more about what your willing to put in. I ride my wife's Gas Gas 125 2T from time to time and don't feel I have a huge adjustment between it and my 4RT. Now, I am not saying there isn't adjustments that need to be accounted for because their is. An example is the engine braking on my 07 4RT is much more pronounced and I have a tendency to pull the clutch in a bit more as a result, this doesn't affect my riding when on the 2T, however going the other way I could see not pulling in the clutch in could.
I don't ride top level stuff so this is an intermediate riding with aspirations to start riding advanced in the next year so take it for what it is.
The best thing to do is if you can attend an event and see if a few people would be willing to let you and your son ride one to see what you thing.
Scorpa, Sherco and Ossa have all produced variants of the trials bike turned trail bike over recent years. I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh and certainly don't know anyone that bought one.
You could argue the 4RT is a more solid basis than any of the others for such a bike, but to me this feels like a niche within a niche.
I have seen a Scorpa and an OSSA in person. Been on the Scorpa, but didn't get a chance to try the OSSA, however with what I saw from how the owner rode it I would expect it to ride a lot like one of the Beta Sport trials bikes with the seat tank added on. They where both great bikes.
As for market if they can get 50 state it would help them get more sales, however if they don't I still hope they come to the US as I want at least 1... (Have some hope I can get the wife to buy into me getting one for her as well)
Just got a set of there gloves in the mail today. Nice, already like the way they feel. My only complaint is that the portion of scratchy Velcro is a little to large in comparison to the soft Velcro and there choice of placement to have the scratchy side pointing out toward the sleeves isn't optimal.
The rest of the glove features are great, I love the feel of the leather, their size chart was dead on for my hand to glove size, the fabric feels nice, the stitching is done well, the over all comfort is great. I give it an 8 out of 10. (would have a 9 out of ten if it wasn't for there Velcro)
My preference is a close fit on the fingers and palm, where this glove is good but a bit loose, this is nit picking as most people I know don't want the closer fit so for them to get a full 10 from me they would have needed to have a slightly thinner fit. (I think most people would like the current fit over my preference)
No, JML I bet he could do it with a bone stock bike. It`s all about timing.
I would expect this to be 100% true. I went to a Ryan Young training where a stock Sherco 300 was sent out for the event. I saw him do an almost 4' hop of this same type off of a single rock and it looked just as effortless. The only difference was he didn't ride a wheelie into it...
If Ryan can do it on a stock bike I am sure Cabestany can.
If in fact the statement "the Montesa appears to be almost mint" is really true and the Gas Gas is scratched that makes me want to side with the 4RT. As for expectations and what level and type of riding you want to do the above comments are well placed.
Do we really want to be encouraging the irresponsible to buy a bike and use it "everywhere" as implied?
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I find the irresponsible already do this, and don't think this is going to change that much. (I do understand your concern and am not trying to down play it, I just don't see this as that big of an impact)
I for one hope they do come in the road legal form. And would love 2 of them for my wife and I so we can do camp and rides where having the road access would open up our options to connect trails in some places we have been that I had to ride the same trail there and back instead of a connecting loop that would have been more fun.
I guess I missed the first picture some how (maybe because of my phone?) on the PC tonight... So the second picture. It looks like your levers are up more in that picture and I found that was more of what put my weight back than the bar location, however that could be picture angle. By bringing the levers up it causes me to move my body back to make my wrists more comfortable and took a lot of the pressure off my hands.
My 2 cents, Your bars look right where I would put them.
I had mine back more and it was hard on my wrists and I kept putting to much pressure on them as a result. I found that rolling them forward as you have done and raising the levers quite a bit closer to level helped me get back on the pegs more to take the weight off the bars. It did also take some practice and attention to keeping back at first but in about a week I was both riding better as I was using my feet more as well as my hands didn't hurt as much.
My levers are only down just a little from level, and the result is I can get back a lot more coming down steep hills, pull the front with less effort for floaters, wheel hops and wheelies, as well as have better control in turng do to using my feet more I sted if my hands.
I have seen this type of scoring/riding in many of the videos of Spain riders. If I believe with the rules they ride with its allowed because he is still on the pegs no foot down and hopping to get setup. (I could be quite wrong however so...)
I love the grip on my Montesa 4t, I believe its better than my wife's Gas Gas 2t. Is that opinion? Yes.
I have loved 4t's ever sense my first ride on one and though there is a difference between them that might cause some traction issues for me it isn't an issue.
Disclaimer: I know some of this is based in logic however I am not sure how much translates to fact so take it however you want...
What I see causes traction issues on a 4t seems to be...
- 1st: the power stroke happens 1/2 as often causing a more abrupt power impulse and in slick situations cause the tire to brake loose and is even more apparent when at lower throttle.
- 2nd: the power distribution on most 4t's I have been on is more mid range, and so the learning curve will cause some to brake traction when not expected tell they learn to adjust.
- 3rd: All of the 4t's I have been on seem to have a large difference in there clutch, faster to be specific, and this can cause issues.
- 4th: (this is opinion mixed with my exp.) Many riders seem to ride with the throttle instead of both throttle and clutch, this will take all 3 of the above items and exaggerate them.
- 5th: suspension setup also has a large affect on grip and I have seen a lot of older Montesa's running slow/stiff settings that don't give as good of traction as the softer settings on most other brands. (I have heard the stock defaults on even the new 4RT's are set slow, however I haven't been on one to know for sure)
Outside of this the choice of tire and pressure settings can have a profound affect on grip/traction and so unless I check the brand and pressure of the tires when trying someone else bike its hard to compare grip strait across.
My vote Montesa 4RT all the way... (FYI: this is a biased opinion so...)
+1 on the 250 for the largest bike (unless your an extra big guy) even then...
This is my opinion so take it as that.
My short story, I am 180lbs and the first bike we had in the family was for my wife and was her Gas Gas TXT Pro 125... I spend almost 4 months sharing her bike tell I got my Montesa 4RT and even today riding intermediate I would be able to do everything on her bike with just a little more clutch work and throttle. The smaller engine forced me to learn the clutch better as well as using my body to help get the technique more correct from the start.
On a side note, its about you having fun and sticking with it and being happy with what you get so after all is said and done get what you want and keep at it!
I just learned about them about a month ago and am almost due for a new set of gloves. I am going to order a set from them to see how well I like them, will report back once I get them.
I have done about 27 miles on a single tank riding my 07 4RT and had 2 fuel bottles with me for extra range ending in about 38 miles of trail riding that day on under 3l used. I would love an HM and have it on the list for Christmas...
Based on my daughter and trials, it was about getting her on the bike(s) and getting the habit of going out often so yes mates is a good idea, if you can find some.
As for length of time I found for my daughter it was two factors, interest level and energy level. If the interest level was up I would let her play tell she was tired, if interest wasn't up I would just do a short session to keep up the habit of doing it.
On a side note I have heard that the jump to the larger bikes from the Osset's can take the fun out of it for some and being willing to switch to bicycle trials might help. Don't know this from personal experience but it might make a difference.
I hope it's not gone, or at least they come out with an alternative. I am in need of a new set soon and would rather get a set of X11's than the Dunlops.
My wife has larger calves than I do and her Gaerne seem ok as they ride a bit lower, I have lots of extra room in my alpinestars no-stop but not sure if they would accommodat huge ones...
I would be re-checking the carb, fuel lines, and tank fuel shut off.
The last time I had an issue like this it was fuel not getting to the carb and pulled the carb to not find anything. Turned out to be the tanks shut off. One time before that it was plugged vent lines.
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Never been in that so will trust that to be the case.