My 2 cents, Your bars look right where I would put them.
I had mine back more and it was hard on my wrists and I kept putting to much pressure on them as a result. I found that rolling them forward as you have done and raising the levers quite a bit closer to level helped me get back on the pegs more to take the weight off the bars. It did also take some practice and attention to keeping back at first but in about a week I was both riding better as I was using my feet more as well as my hands didn't hurt as much.
My levers are only down just a little from level, and the result is I can get back a lot more coming down steep hills, pull the front with less effort for floaters, wheel hops and wheelies, as well as have better control in turng do to using my feet more I sted if my hands.
I have seen this type of scoring/riding in many of the videos of Spain riders. If I believe with the rules they ride with its allowed because he is still on the pegs no foot down and hopping to get setup. (I could be quite wrong however so...)
I love the grip on my Montesa 4t, I believe its better than my wife's Gas Gas 2t. Is that opinion? Yes.
I have loved 4t's ever sense my first ride on one and though there is a difference between them that might cause some traction issues for me it isn't an issue.
Disclaimer: I know some of this is based in logic however I am not sure how much translates to fact so take it however you want...
What I see causes traction issues on a 4t seems to be...
- 1st: the power stroke happens 1/2 as often causing a more abrupt power impulse and in slick situations cause the tire to brake loose and is even more apparent when at lower throttle.
- 2nd: the power distribution on most 4t's I have been on is more mid range, and so the learning curve will cause some to brake traction when not expected tell they learn to adjust.
- 3rd: All of the 4t's I have been on seem to have a large difference in there clutch, faster to be specific, and this can cause issues.
- 4th: (this is opinion mixed with my exp.) Many riders seem to ride with the throttle instead of both throttle and clutch, this will take all 3 of the above items and exaggerate them.
- 5th: suspension setup also has a large affect on grip and I have seen a lot of older Montesa's running slow/stiff settings that don't give as good of traction as the softer settings on most other brands. (I have heard the stock defaults on even the new 4RT's are set slow, however I haven't been on one to know for sure)
Outside of this the choice of tire and pressure settings can have a profound affect on grip/traction and so unless I check the brand and pressure of the tires when trying someone else bike its hard to compare grip strait across.
My vote Montesa 4RT all the way... (FYI: this is a biased opinion so...)
+1 on the 250 for the largest bike (unless your an extra big guy) even then...
This is my opinion so take it as that.
My short story, I am 180lbs and the first bike we had in the family was for my wife and was her Gas Gas TXT Pro 125... I spend almost 4 months sharing her bike tell I got my Montesa 4RT and even today riding intermediate I would be able to do everything on her bike with just a little more clutch work and throttle. The smaller engine forced me to learn the clutch better as well as using my body to help get the technique more correct from the start.
On a side note, its about you having fun and sticking with it and being happy with what you get so after all is said and done get what you want and keep at it!
I just learned about them about a month ago and am almost due for a new set of gloves. I am going to order a set from them to see how well I like them, will report back once I get them.
I have done about 27 miles on a single tank riding my 07 4RT and had 2 fuel bottles with me for extra range ending in about 38 miles of trail riding that day on under 3l used. I would love an HM and have it on the list for Christmas...
Based on my daughter and trials, it was about getting her on the bike(s) and getting the habit of going out often so yes mates is a good idea, if you can find some.
As for length of time I found for my daughter it was two factors, interest level and energy level. If the interest level was up I would let her play tell she was tired, if interest wasn't up I would just do a short session to keep up the habit of doing it.
On a side note I have heard that the jump to the larger bikes from the Osset's can take the fun out of it for some and being willing to switch to bicycle trials might help. Don't know this from personal experience but it might make a difference.
I hope it's not gone, or at least they come out with an alternative. I am in need of a new set soon and would rather get a set of X11's than the Dunlops.
My wife has larger calves than I do and her Gaerne seem ok as they ride a bit lower, I have lots of extra room in my alpinestars no-stop but not sure if they would accommodat huge ones...
I would be re-checking the carb, fuel lines, and tank fuel shut off.
The last time I had an issue like this it was fuel not getting to the carb and pulled the carb to not find anything. Turned out to be the tanks shut off. One time before that it was plugged vent lines.
Drag the back brake lightly. No explanation for this but works in loose cobbley sections.
My experience on this technique is that it seems to smooth out the power impulses of the engine as well as the slightest of throttle changes that can happen during a turn and improves traction when the bike is leaning over.
did its job then, but whats wrong with it other than paint scatched etc? i am missing something haha??
When you take a hit like that it will compress the foam protective layer. Its designed to compress sacrificing its self to save your head. A second hit wouldn't provide the same amount of protection as it has already been compromised.
I want, I want, I want... Ask the wife I am like a little kid that isn't getting what he wants... LOL
Ok not really, but I am doing everything I can to figure out how to pull the money together for one... I have about 2/3 of it figured out but that last 1/3 is killing me.
If a web site is going to sway your decision on buying or not buying ANY motorcycle do yourself and us a favor and don't buy one.
Wow really? I can't think of a better way to kill our sport than to communicate like this in the face of interested riders... Please consider the impact on others reading this thread before responding in this manner.
Been doing trials now for about 3 years but just joined the site. Ride a 2007 4RT, my wife and daughter ride as well (a 08 TXT pro 125 and a Beta Rev 80). Looking forward to learning lots from the site.
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My 2 cents, Your bars look right where I would put them.
I had mine back more and it was hard on my wrists and I kept putting to much pressure on them as a result. I found that rolling them forward as you have done and raising the levers quite a bit closer to level helped me get back on the pegs more to take the weight off the bars. It did also take some practice and attention to keeping back at first but in about a week I was both riding better as I was using my feet more as well as my hands didn't hurt as much.
My levers are only down just a little from level, and the result is I can get back a lot more coming down steep hills, pull the front with less effort for floaters, wheel hops and wheelies, as well as have better control in turng do to using my feet more I sted if my hands.
My experience, hope The info helps.
Best of luck.