I am thinking of revisiting this model, I would use it in trials at a low club level,
Now they are so old what's the reality of obtaining parts, gaskets engine parts, gearbox parts etc in the event of a 23 yr old part giving up? Is it scouring the net looking for a used part or certain items being unobtainable...
I have a 2020 repsol, i have never ridden a previous year, but the engine breaking is only slightly more than a 2T,as in virtually none, the bike has been great but had a torrid time in thick clay mud,the lack of ability to find grip was frustratingI tired gear 1-3rd,off the throttle cluch,revin the tits off it then trying to grip when shutting the throttle,grip was like ice. overall the bike is bloody awesome, I'm thinking about getting some set back footrests, apparently this can help with grip, maybe an IRC rear tyre.
If you borrowed money from.say tesco loans you'd get a lower rate, with cash you then can get a deal, John Lee and sons are good people and if you call them.and are serious I think they'd look.after you. I got my 2020 Repsol from them, they'd look after you for kit if buying at the same time I'm sure
Wardo that's how I used to start my 250 4t 2012 worked every time. I eventually sold mine for a 2020 Repsol. I prefer it. Suspension and brakes are way better, it turns just as well and doesn't tuck the front like my beta randomly could,and virtually zero engine braking. The jury for me is still out on mud grip, I think the beta just is a little better, I tend to ride the Repsol in 3rd or 4 th in the mud and it's much better like that. In the dry I think the Repsol is a much better package.
MONTESA 315 bought around 2009 for about £1000, should never have sold it.
Then had the rose tinted view of a TY175 to potter around on, it was worn out ,cost a fortune as well it was 30 yes old and parts cost more than modern bikes, got rid asap.
Then bought a beta 250 4t, 2013, lovely bike, never missed a beat, only cost consumables and sold for close to purchase price 4 years later
Now in a 2020 MONTESA Repsol.
Buy as late and as in good condition as you can, it'll save you in the long run. Beta 2t is probably best option and no bigger than 250
I know they made a lot of changes for the 2020 engine braking wise, but they should make them lighter, but it may compromise their reliability reputation, I love my '20. If they shaved 4 kg off it I'd buy one
If you are implying I am egocentric because I believe people should take precautions for themselves or take responsibility for their actions, or read the advice and be aware. And not sit around expecting someone else to do it for them.
It's not self centered it's asking people take responsibility. Nor does it implying that I am not interested in people
Remember the person who sued McDonald because she split hot coffee on her and the hadn't printed on the cup that coffee is hot.
Well this is the same, if you create a society where people expect to be steered all the time and don't use their limited intelligence to take responsibility, then blame everyone for how they have ended up you have to expect people to grow tired of hearing it.
All my.friends are the same, maybe it's because we run our own businesses, started with nothing and took all the risk, put our money and hours on the line, made our choices. The only friend who isn't like that is a retired civil servant, who knew
Thanks your friend can find out himself how to moderate his behaviour.
Depends if he is a innocent or if he increased his risk through smoking, drinking, obesity, high salt/sugar diet then he already knew how to modify his behaviour and ignored it.
But if living with covid-19 during treatment then there's plenty of information available.
But he can modify his behaviour by doing the whole social distancing thing, or would he like someone to do that for him, sorry if I sound blunt because if you are trying to guilt me with the big C word then that won't work, I have walked my son, an innocent through the cancer journey and we lost.
I took him, during treatment to the 24 LeMans, while he was nutropenic, very risky, but hey we moderated our behaviour, controlled the situation and managed all by ourselves.
Maybe that's why I get fed up with people's reactions to this virus, it's here to stay and you can live with it,make the most when possible and enjoy your life, or wait until the lifestyle you have led, or your simple genetics give the virus the opportunity it needs to to make you a statistic.
I'm bored of this but, yes a 1000 new cases, primarily from.... Multiple families meeting indoors or multi-generation homes . One of the first easing was exercise outside.
My point is that this virus in all likelihood is here to stay, learn to live with it,
You can always wear a face mask during trials.
I expect the general population will want someone to protect them from the virus if they are an at risk category, because it would require effort on their part to lose weight, change their lifestyle, ensure their safety and the safety of others by moderating their behaviour.
I've done trials and enduro for 15 year's and apart from signing on your pretty much on.your own.
I am concerned about everyone's Welfare. But I'm realistic about learning to live with it.
I bought a beta 250 4t loved it, tried lots of 2t but just like the 4t delivery, guess I'm used to it, wanted something newer and the Beta 300 4 t would seem too much like the previous bike so bought a Repsol, very happy with it
if you cant see a problem you dont understand trials? What happens when a rider gets stuck under a machine or foot jammed in wheel? we cant social distance and help him or her? an older observer falls over do you help them up? A rider breaks down at the bottom of a stream do you help push the bike out?
Erm get a grip, would you step over an old lady who falls in Sainsbury's or drive past a crashed car, I wouldn't.
Unless you are completely asymptomatic, which is not a common as you'd think then you will have symptoms, if you've lifted your head up and taken your tin foil hat off you'd recognize you have symptoms and not attend anything. It's as easy to social distance at a trial as it is anywhere. If an old boy falls in a stream with his bike in top of him I'd help him, then do something crazy like wash my hands in said stream or maybe reach for hand sanitizer. The reality is you either lock yourself indoors forever or get out there and be sensible. This virus is not going away in the near future so be sensible,safe and sane. Get used to living with it or you'll live in fear.
I bought a hour meter with a rim option, I haven't tried it yet as it has an hour meter already fitted, £10 off eBay, hopefully it'll I'm the ball park accurate
Either return it or at least get them to pay for parts, sales and supply of goods,,-not as described or fit for purpose. I bought a bike off the phone once, it was a ****ter, described as in great condition, I did nothing and thought I'd sort it, cost a fortune, it was a TY175, so I expected some wear but it was almost scrap, never buying like that again
I had a 250 4/, cleaned the carb once in 4 years, only because I was bored, if you get an aftermarket airbox to carb conn which is softer I think removal of exhaust and throttle cable and it should pop out the lh side
It's lovely finish, I guess you adapt to it, I'm hoping to gel quickly as i had the Evo 4/ as my only trials bike. If it's like my old bike with a bit more initial off the throttle response then I'll be happy, chassis feels good, there're not 2/ light but I'm used to that
So I finally made a decision, a nice lightly used 2020 Repsol. Initial impressions are good, compared to the BETA Evo 250 4/ the engine feels stronger off the bottom which was the main thing I was looking for, finish it .... Well Honda ??? seem to be able to find the static balance easier, hopefully have a good go on Saturday
I've been riding trials casually for about 5 years, the last 3 more so, I just sold a BETA Evo 250 4/ which was lovely and even better with an ohlins fitted. I have ridden several 2/ over the last few weeks and tbh apart from the TRS one-R (2016) I preferred my 4/. So I think the 4/ is my target engine. My riding is really smooth woods with some chalky mud when wet so grip low speed grip is important, it's not rocky here but slippery off camber and tight sections thru woods are the general round here
Cheers Jonnyc21, I would prefer to have it right, spoke to a guy who has a 4rt and fitted a showa unit, says a massive improvement, he also fitted compression to the fork's, better to have it all from the beginning rather than start chasing improvement, I'm a low level rider but a well sorted bike is a better start ?
Reality of 315R ownership
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Thanks for your response, additional information from anyone else would be great