My Employer Sucks

[andy.t]

Please let me know if your Employer sucks.The company I work for is always expecting more from me,but when you mention is there any more money in it for me you get this stange look from the managers.Is it just me or do others expect rewards for being trained to do advanced skills.Please let me know what you think.

P.S. I have told them to stick their training up there RSS

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Please let me know if your Employer sucks.The company I work for is always expecting more from me,but when you mention is there any more money in it for me you get this stange look from the managers.Is it just me or do others expect rewards for being trained to do advanced skills.Please let me know what you think.

P.S. I have told them to stick their training up there RSS

Due to the Official Secrets Act I am unable to comment....

[atomant]

Please let me know if your Employer sucks.The company I work for is always expecting more from me,but when you mention is there any more money in it for me you get this stange look from the managers.Is it just me or do others expect rewards for being trained to do advanced skills.Please let me know what you think.

P.S. I have told them to stick their training up there RSS

I would suggest that you don't turn down the training , or any training come to that. A trained individual is more valuable to a company than an untrained one.

I also never went to my boss for a wage rise. I always worked on the basis that if I worked hard and showed some initiative, then I would get rewarded, and that's what happened for me.

These days, I think an employer could take this view. Someone working hard and showing initiative will get on. Those that tell them to take their training and shove it up their ass wont.

[scottt]

As a manager if one of my staff told me where to shove there traning they would be finding themselves on a disciplinary.

Hows the TY going Andy, done anything else to it recently?

[ham2]

The harder I work the more work they give me.

Take the training and use it to find a better job

If you can't get the rewards you want after doing your training,the skills you've just acquired may be of more interest to your next employer and who knows...your next employer may even pay you more for having those extra skills.

While I'm being a wise old sage.....(this is true)..Two of my schoolmates(both 'very equal' in most ways)joined the armed forces at the same time and quit at the same time.

One joined the Paras',one joined the Marines. (I am not getting into a regiment vs regiment argument here 'cos I've had enough of that 5h1t)

They both learned the runnin',shootin' and stabbin' thing but the Marine got sent on every skills course you could imagine,hgv,mechanics course,medics..blah,blah.

When they came out of the forces one of them had his choice of jobs, the other took what he could get,one of them revels in it when his boss yanks his chain and sends him on a course as he knows the skill will be of personal benefit to himself... somewhere down the line.

I realize I've laid it on a bit thick.... but that's how it's turned out.

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If you can't get the rewards you want after doing your training,the skills you've just acquired may be of more interest to your next employer and who knows...your next employer may even pay you more for having those extra skills.

While I'm being a wise old sage.....(this is true)..Two of my schoolmates(both 'very equal' in most ways)joined the armed forces at the same time and quit at the same time.

One joined the Paras',one joined the Marines. (I am not getting into a regiment vs regiment argument here 'cos I've had enough of that 5h1t)

They both learned the runnin',shootin' and stabbin' thing but the Marine got sent on every skills course you could imagine,hgv,mechanics course,medics..blah,blah.

When they came out of the forces one of them had his choice of jobs, the other took what he could get,one of them revels in it when his boss yanks his chain and sends him on a course as he knows the skill will be of personal benefit to himself... somewhere down the line.

I realize I've laid it on a bit thick.... but that's how it's turned out.

Training is great but unless it's relevant I don't see much point, unless you are about to tell your boss where to shove it. If you are in a profession/career that is highly specialised training opportunities can be few and far between. Our lot run courses you can get into to keep you up to speed with technical developments and theories but not much else.

[andy.t]

OK,so this is how it is,I didn't exactly say stick your training up your RSS,I just said if theres no money in it for me then why should I do it(was thinking stick it up your RSS at the time).The point is this,when I started 18 years ago the basic money was good for the job they employed me to do, but as years have past I have received additional qualifications that benefit the company financially,so I didn't mind doing the extra training when the pay was good but now its not I have no enthusiasm to do anything extra,if the company charges extra for what I do then I should get extra for doing it.In reality I should just do the training and then tell them to stick their job up their RSS,problem is that I have a final salary pension tying me to the job.

Scott the TY is still going good with no more mods as yet,picked up a cheap GASGAS 200,its alot easier to ride than the TY.

PS. I want support not criticism.

[benj]

i can see your issue, after serving a 5 year apprenticeship i was doing the same job as the other engineers but still being payed peanuts. then i resigned with a better job offer so they payed me more to stay. for the last 3 years now ive handed my notice in and each time recieved more money to stay, it was a win win for me. in order for me to do this i've had to do all the training thrown at me and worked harder than expected. i might be a mug but secretly the company doesnt want to admit how vital i am. its a pity your pension is tied but if you refuse the training (which im my job is often nessesary), in an extreme example could you not loose your job and pension?.

[ham2]

PS. I want support not criticism.

Oh really?

After I had already typed out a ''long'' answer for you.

Here's a short answer ................click me

[andy.t]

OK HAM2,just phoned the Samaritans and they haven't any jobs suitable for me at the moment,so what was your "long" answer?

[bilco]

Yer bite your tounge and take there free training they want to give you,after you got through the training call there bluff and tell them you've been offered the same job with better money else where,but make sure that new job offer exisit's before you bluff them,you must allway's have a back up plan before you bluff these people.

My thinking is,if your good at your job your never be unemployed.

Edited November 29, 2007 by bilco

[andy.t]

My last words on this subject for all you Managers.

It's the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." It is the ultimate norm of high morality in our culture. Sure there are other morals by which we live, but this one phrase embodies our most cherished value: that we should treat people as we would like to be treated.

[ishy]

Maybe your boss is paying you what he thinks your ******* worth

[atomant]

My thinking is,if your good at your job your never be unemployed.

I couldn't agree more

[andy.t]

OK Ishy, I did say it was my final word,but its obvious theres a lot of Managers out there reading this and yes your right its obvious that my Manager thinks that what he pays me is what I am worth,its a good job the Engineers don't pay the Managers what we think their worth.The thing is I think the Managers know what their worth and just like to reflect this on the Engineers to make themselves feel good.They should stick with Wan King the ancient form of pleasure.

Me, bite, never.