January 27, 200917 yr Can anyone help with a source for 199b Tank Decals? I'm looking for vinyl rather than water slide transfers - I've tried the water slide transfers and I can't get them to stick to a poly tank. Thanks in advance Paul M
January 27, 200917 yr I'm sure Dave Renham at BultacoUK does the vinyl ones for the 199B, I'm almost certain I bought a set off him! Big John
January 27, 200917 yr Can anyone help with a source for 199b Tank Decals? I'm looking for vinyl rather than water slide transfers - I've tried the water slide transfers and I can't get them to stick to a poly tank. Thanks in advance Paul M I doubt vinyl will either (For long anyway). Originally the Poly tanks were screen printed with the graphics. Not what you wanted to hear I'm sure. Ivan Cirre in Spain has some 199B tank decals but not sure what type they are. Wayne.... Edited January 27, 200917 yr by wayne_weedon
January 28, 200917 yr Author Hi Big John - thanks for that, I'll give him a call - I need a few more bits anyway. Hi Wayne - I know what you mean - I bought the tank from Dave R when I was back in the UK a couple of years back but it had the wrong screen print decals on- fortunatly they don't stay on too long either - it's either the 45* heat or the Ausie fuel... so i figure vinyl might hang in a bit longer. Many thanks for your help Chaps. Regards Paul M Edited January 28, 200917 yr by paulmac
January 28, 200917 yr You can certainly put vinyl decals on a poly plastic tank BUT they will NOT stay on with any decal applied to any plastic tank , the petrol vapour breathes through the decal and melts the glue and bubbles up the decal The only way the decal will stay on is if you never put petrol in the tank! WHY do you think the original tanks are screen printed!! Fine if you are just lookung at it , but trying to succsessfully put on decals.........forget it. The ony people who do this on their bikes succsessfully - is the japs- but they are better at making things than anybody.
January 28, 200917 yr The UK spec 199B Sherpa used an alloy tank of a different shape to the earlier alloy 199A UK spec bike, so decals of either type were not a problem, other than usual wear caused by use. Big John
January 28, 200917 yr Author Agreed Big John - I still have the original 'slab tank' that came with the bike, my poly tank is not one of the OEM tanks of the period, it
January 28, 200917 yr I thought I'd read that coating the tank, using something like the Caswell epoxy might prevent the seepage and protect the decals? Just a thought.
January 29, 200917 yr Dave i will try to seal the tank of my Fantic 125 with expoyprimer a friend of mine has a paintshop and he thinks it should work. It looks like crap anyway so if it doesent work it will still look better, will post the results here good or bad Cheers, Ed
January 29, 200917 yr Fantic tanks paint ok, no idea whether they are a different material from the Bultaco tanks. A mate of mine has a Fantic tank that has been painted for years and it hasn't lifted. Doesn't appear to be lined with anything. At the twinshock team trial last year Bill Pye's team were on Fantics and they all had painted tanks. They weren't lined as I asked him, just painted with 2-pack with flexible plastic primer. I've used Caswells on a fibreglass tank - is it made to work with the polyprop... tanks, can it stick to that? I had a Sherpa tank painted almost 2 years ago, not lined with anything, decals applied and then lacquered. I've never been able to use it as the captive nuts pulled so I couldn't seal the tap. It's had petrol in it but not for long but it must have fumes in it still. So far no problem. One day I'll get round to just putting a bit of fuel in it and leave it to see if it does lift the paint over time.
January 29, 200917 yr Fantic tanks paint ok, no idea whether they are a different material from the Bultaco tanks. A mate of mine has a Fantic tank that has been painted for years and it hasn't lifted. Doesn't appear to be lined with anything. At the twinshock team trial last year Bill Pye's team were on Fantics and they all had painted tanks. They weren't lined as I asked him, just painted with 2-pack with flexible plastic primer.I've used Caswells on a fibreglass tank - is it made to work with the polyprop... tanks, can it stick to that? I had a Sherpa tank painted almost 2 years ago, not lined with anything, decals applied and then lacquered. I've never been able to use it as the captive nuts pulled so I couldn't seal the tap. It's had petrol in it but not for long but it must have fumes in it still. So far no problem. One day I'll get round to just putting a bit of fuel in it and leave it to see if it does lift the paint over time. Simple fix for that fault. drill out captive holes template a bit of ally say 6 mm thick to match the tap top drill and tap 2 holes wire through tank filler to tap top and fit a m6 to one side then petcock to other then second bolt tighten up job done.
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