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Gas Gas Take Over (Multiple Topics Merged)

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  • No but he probably knows more than you

  • nigel dabster
    nigel dabster

    i must be old and grey but why bother with electric its not real motorcycling is it?

  • crazybond700
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    I think batching is the way to go in this type of fabrication. The rest of the time is restocking, pre-assemble parts, preparing the factory for the new batching (other model in this case e.g, enduro?

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" Our plan is to have one single,distributor for Gas Gas trials and enduro bikes in each country"------That may not be the best move for the USA,very separated markets.

" Our plan is to have one single,distributor for Gas Gas trials and enduro bikes in each country"------That may not be the best move for the USA,very separated markets.

They might be looking for a company that can pull together the markets for them. It is tough if you have competition within the country... I would think it is tough enough with cross border shopping.

" Our plan is to have one single,distributor for Gas Gas trials and enduro bikes in each country"------That may not be the best move for the USA,very separated markets.

 

 And splitting up their product line would help keep it that way

" Our plan is to have one single,distributor for Gas Gas trials and enduro bikes in each country"------That may not be the best move for the USA,very separated markets.

 

Beta has kept it same haven't they? Wonder what part's importation will do since they are separate from both trials bikes and enduro bike importation. On top of that the parts importer is coming from a guy who is now importing a competitor bike. 

 

--Biff

I apologise if I've not read it properly but are they actually going to develop a new trials bike or stick with current design?

What do you think overheads are on the factory including wages for a month or two?

More than profit on 3000 bikes?

My guess is enduro bikes never made a dime.

 

As a ballpark figure to run a simple assembly plant with about 30 employees you are looking at £600k to £1m annual "wage" costs. Non wage costs will add about £300k to £600k That is a total of £900k to £1.6m. Divide that by 3000 bike and it gives an assembly cost of £300 to £533 er bike. Not implausible IF they sell 3000

Beta has kept it same haven't they? Wonder what part's importation will do since they are separate from both trials bikes and enduro bike importation. On top of that the parts importer is coming from a guy who is now importing a competitor bike. 

 

--Biff

Beta had better Enduro bikes to start with. The new importer has been lucky as Beta is fairly well built bike. I really do not like his new setup as a true importer. Who in the USA would you call for real technical advise on a BETA? They refer you to the Dealers. Maybe I was spoiled being able to talk to Ron SR all those years. The only one, might be Ray Peters.

On the Gas Gas issue, Snell has done more for Gasser riders from a repair stand point than anybody in the world. He would have always had parts if the Factory had not got behind in it`s financial dealings. This new owner sounds like he has good intentions. Might be hard for him to understand what the true market for trials is in the USA. Very much an underground sport. This is coming from a healthy trials club with quite a few members with motorcycle backgrounds for decades at the local full line shops. With employees known for years to be involved in trials, most other riders are clueless about our existence. Might end up like all the Honda shops. They all sell Montesa`s, but no parts or knowledge available.

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