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My 'new to me' SWM TL320 came with a 'fast action' Domina throttle assembly going by the receipt, is there really a noticeable riding difference between fast and slow actions or marketing hype? cheers guys PS I think I need a slow action...I'm white section std

Thanks gentlemen

Pics...ahh good question sir....see "is this a 1980TL" thread... .. .I'm embarrassed to say i didn't take any before I stripped her down....took lots during the strip to remind me where the bits go though!

Guys thanks for your help, I'm now the owner of a 1980 TL320.,,.brought her back at 1pm....stripped down by 5pm ready for powder coating and refit. No nasty surprises but a few things I've noticed: Gearing seems high....running 14/40 at the moment.....thinking of going to a 13 front. Clutch is light, positive and I can get nuetral too...easier than my my Beta REV3! But there is no undertank lever lightener system....cable goes from lever direct to clutch cover. Shes a little crackly on the noise front....is it possible to repack the silencer....which weighs more than boat anchor? Trans oil.....10/40? Any advise welcome

some tidy bikes, some tidy riding too and good day out....I like the cheers for the riders, great atmosphere....weather helps! http://youtu.be/qE_ZVmtzrxs?list=UUh1gxnnll8l45DBnp2xHx0w

I did think Greeves.... but that engine...I thought the crank cases looked too fussy...thanks for that.

at 9:00....? Some lovely old tubs doing the rounds here and quite a mixed bunch too. http://youtu.be/eli3965okco?list=UUh1gxnnll8l45DBnp2xHx0w

my next project will be getting powder coated engine cases for sure, I just put a friend on to the powder coaters I used when I did my nut and bolt resto' on my TL125. He had some Magnesium engine covers and ali' brake parts coated in their chrome effect powder coat they use for road alloy wheels and the result is wonderful....not super cheap but very, very impressive indeed. We used these guys if its any help to you. GKL Powder CoatingUnits 16, 17 & 18 Oakwood Industrial Estate, Harling Road, Snetterton Norwich Norfolk NR16 2JU Daytime Telephone: 01953 888215 Fax: 01953 887941 Mobile: 07766 904 147 Email: gklpowdercoating@yahoo.co.uk

but letter by letter still takes forever.....!

FIM outdoor trials 2014 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2013 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2012 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2011 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2010 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2009 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2008 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2007 Toni Bou Montesa Honda 2006 Adam Raga Gas Gas 2005 Adam Raga Gas Gas 2004 Takahisa Fujinami Montesa Honda 2003 Dougie Lampkin Montesa Honda 2002 Dougie Lampkin Montesa Honda 2001 Dougie Lampkin Montesa Honda 2000 Dougie Lampkin Montesa Honda 1999 Dougie Lampkin Beta 1998 Dougie Lampkin Beta 1997 Dougie Lampkin Beta 1996 Marc Colomer Montesa 1995 Jordi Tarrés Gas Gas 1994 Jordi Tarrés Gas Gas 1993 Jordi Tarrés Gas Gas 1992 Tommi Ahvala Aprilia 1991 Jordi Tarrés Beta 1990 Jordi Tarrés Beta 1989 Jordi Tarrés Beta 1988 Thierry Michaud Fantic 1987 Jordi Tarrés Beta 1986 Thierry Michaud Fantic 1985 Thierry Michaud Fantic 1984 Eddy Lejeune Honda 1983 Eddy Lejeune Honda 1982 Eddy Lejeune Honda 1981 Gilles Burgat SWM First Italian bike to win a World Trial Championship 1980 Ulf Karlsson Montesa 1979 Bernie Schreiber Bultaco 1978 Yrjö Vesterinen Bultaco 1977 Yrjö Vesterinen Bultaco 1976 Yrjö Vesterinen Bultaco 1975 Martin Lampkin Bultaco Title becomes "World Trials Champion" 1974 Malcolm Rathmell Bultaco 1973 Martin Lampkin Bultaco 1972 Mick Andrews Ossa 1971 Mick Andrews Ossa 1970 Sammy Miller Bultaco 1969 Don Smith Montesa 1968 Sammy Miller Bultaco Title becomes "European Trials Champion" 1967 Don Smith Greeves 1966 Gustav Franke Zündapp 1965 Gustav Franke Zündapp 1964 Don Smith Greeves Title becomes "International Trial Master" Indoor Series

I ask as this was mentioned over a cup of tea with a friend, we weren't sure....Fantic won World Outdoor in 1985 and the SSDT in 1984 but were these mono or t/s and, both were possibly 'works issue' so may not concurr with the then production models? got this from wiki so could be wrong? SSDT 1932 Bob MacGregor 499cc Rudge (First Scot to win the SSDT) 1933 Len Heath 497cc Ariel 1934 Jack Williams 348cc Norton 1935 Bob MacGregor Rudge (Last win by a Scotsman) 1936 Billy Tiffen 343cc Velocette 1937 Jack Williams 348cc Norton 1938 Fred Povey 348cc Ariel 1939 Allan Jeffries Triumph 1947 Hugh Viney AJS Model 16 1948 Hugh Viney AJS 1949 Hugh Viney AJS (First SSDT "Hat trick") 1950 Artie Ratcliffe 350cc Matchless 1951 John Draper 350cc BSA 1952 John Brittain Royal Enfield 1953 Hugh Viney AJS 1954 Artie Ratcliffe Matchless (OLH 721) 1955 Jeff Smith 500cc BSA Gold Star 1956 Gordon Jackson AJS 1957 John Brittain 350cc Royal Enfield Bullet - HNP 331 1958 Gordon Jackson 350cc AJS 1959 Roy Peplow 199cc Triumph Tiger Cub (First time a small capacity motorcycle won). 1960 Gordon Jackson 350cc AJS 1961 Gordon Jackson 350cc AJS (187 BLF - Won on 1 mark lost) 1962 Sammy Miller 500cc Ariel - GOV 132 1963 Arthur Lampkin Factory 250cc BSA 1964 Sammy Miller 500cc Ariel GOV 132 1965 Sammy Miller Bultaco two-stroke (669 NHO) 1966 Alan Lampkin 250cc BSA (last four-stroke win until 2007) 1967 Sammy Miller Bultaco 1968 Sammy Miller Bultaco 1969 Bill Wilkinson 250cc Greeves Anglian (WWC 169F) 1970 Mick Andrews Ossa 1971 Mick Andrews Ossa 1972 Mick Andrews Ossa 1973 Malcolm Rathmell 250cc Bultaco (XWW 34L) 1974 Mick Andrews Yamaha OW10 Yamaha 1975 Mick Andrews Yamaha 1976 Martin Lampkin Bultaco 1977 Martin Lampkin Bultaco 1978 Martin Lampkin Bultaco 1979 Malcolm Rathmell Montesa 310 Cota 1980 Yrjö Vesterinen Montesa (First win by an overseas rider) 1981 Gilles Burgat 280cc SWM 1982 Bernie Schrieber 280cc SWM 1983 Tony Gorgot Montesa 1984 Thierry Michaud Fantic 1985 Thierry Michaud Fantic 1986 Thierry Michaud Fantic 1987 Jordi Tarres Beta 1988 Steve Saunders Fantic 1989 Steve Saunders Fantic 1990 Steve Saunders Beta 1991 Steve Saunders 260cc Beta 1992 Steve Colley 260cc Beta 1993 Steve Colley 260cc Beta 1994 Dougie Lampkin 250cc Beta 1995 Dougie Lampkin 250cc Beta 1996 Dougie Lampkin 250cc Beta 1997 Steve Colley 270cc Gas Gas 1998 Graham Jarvis 250cc Scorpa 1999 Graham Jarvis 250cc Bultaco Sherco 2000 Steve Colley 280cc Gas Gas 2001 No SSDT Due to Foot and Mouth Disease the Scottish Six Days Trial was suspended 2002 Amós Bilbao 249cc Montesa 2003 Joan Pons 290cc Sherco 2004 Graham Jarvis 290cc Sherco 2005 Sam Connor 290cc Sherco 2006 Graham Jarvis 290cc Sherco 2007 James Dabill 300cc Future TRW Montesa (First four-stroke win since Alan Lampkin in 1966) 2008 Dougie Lampkin 270cc Beta 2009 Dougie Lampkin 290cc Beta 2010 Alexz Wigg 290cc Beta 2011 James Dabill 290cc Beta 2012 Dougie Lampkin Gas Gas 2013 Dougie Lampkin Gas Gas 2014 Dougie Lampkin DL12 - Gas Gas Year Name Country Machine Notes

but did have a No.6 with it though.

I get it now....being a hardcore drinker I never mixed mine with water!

from wiki....mentions Pernod too... "In 1982 a 240 model was produced with a blue frame, acknowledging Pernod's trials sponsorship"....no TL320 frames in blue?

I've heard the use of blue frames was something to sponsership by 'Pernod'......or am I wrongly assuming its anything to do with a drink as I used to like a stiff Pernod and black when I was a yoof ...this bottle of my favorite Caister Soul Weekender tipple isn't really in SWM colours ...although from memory before mixing Pernod is a pale yellow as it is in this photo (unless it's someones 'sample') and there is blue in the 'Paris' on the bottle...bit tenuous though

thanks for the tip

Hi guys and thanks again, yes spoke with Martin, very useful conversation and nice guy to talk with.

Better value and more pretty too these SWMs

PS just what are Magicals fork springs?

You guys have been a great source of help amazing me with your SWM knowledge and patience with a rookie like myself to the world of the Italian Speedies, but I have another favour to ask. I believe this TL320 pictured is a 1980....then met a guy yesterday into old twinshocks whom tells me from his memory that a 1980 SWM should be yellow with black frame (tick) but that the frame should have under engine frame tubes intact (ohh), SWM's loosing the lower under engine tubes in 1981...I should add the fella did say that 34 years on his memory could be wrong and that he owned a 1981 Gori, can any one help? I thought Gori's were always a year behind the SWM's so this one pictured is correct in having no under engine frame tubes....that's a mouthfull (UEFT's) ....just wish to be sure regarding year...buying wrong parts in future from Martin, insuring her etc not a deal breaker, but the bike did come to the vender after being stored for years, he has obviously invested a lot of time and money in her. Bike has Sammy Miller rear shocks, Magicals front springs, new kickstart shaft, new chain/sprockets, grease nipples in headstock with new bearings etc she's up up for a grand so a nice enough price...shame about the 5 hour drive! Vender sounds a very genuine and knowledgable guy, a few other bikes in the background always nice to see. She's only going to be used for twinshocks in the Norfolk Dabbers etc and sections here are tame ('ish), emphasis on fun....I'm an aweful rider and only ride for the laugh, the social side and keep myself active, I don't even tot the dabs up.....all very strange as my idea of enduro competition was the compete opposite.... even erm...relieving myself on the hoof to avoid loosing points...did I say that out loud but illness means I'm never going to a bringing any more cups home on the enduro/hare 'n hound front...and talent rules out the trials tin. many thanks for any help gentlemen

Thanks for clearing that up.....coming from a modern Beta REV 250 thats a good tip.

From what Ive read the 125/250/320 all have same frame size dimensions...i'd be grateful for clarification? Cheers guys

Yup spoke with the vender today and have the piccies.....not for me sadly. Been speaking with a guy called Steve near Blackpool with a 1980 320TL....description, pictures and price sound good.....5 hour drive but "he who dares"

I give up

great website Martin has there