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thanks for that, dan. some useful stuff for me to keep in mind when planning out sections in there, remembering not to make things too tough and realise many riders focus more on the fun factor than a tough challenge.
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good link, cascao. i've been getting tips from the A and B grade riders in the clubs for each video but also double checking them with the info on various trials DVDs and also the info from the trials training center so hoping the info is good.
the main issue then is with the advanced techniques is hoping our riders are doing it right... just posted one about splatters and it's our junior rider who is currently in B grade. from what i've seen i think he's doing it correctly but i can always add comments to the video if experienced riders can see he's not quite got it right.
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hehe, that's a bit of a running joke with these guys! the guy in the blue t-shirt wants to do a backflip one day so he and his brother are always yelling out "do a backflip" whenever someone does something a bit out of their comfort zone.
just posted this one on cornering yesterday. all of the trials training stuff i've seen says keep your shoulders in line with the bars but someone did say he wasn't taught that way, keen to hear other experienced riders on this.
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thanks jimmie, they are a fun bunch to ride with. i am still terrible at riding logs and falling into the trap of mainly practicing the stuff i'm relatively okay at...
below is the second one i've just finished. i'm posting the info as text on the club's website here as well in case anyone wants to print it out.
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great pics. the lighting around there must help too, the harsh light in australian summers makes good photos almost impossible until about 5pm on...
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has anyone lengthened theirs at all? i'm cutting off the engine every time i wipe sweat out of my eyes, get cobwebs off my face, or go to turn off the gopro if filming a section. i was thinking of adding an extra foot or two but wondered if it is likely to get caught up on stuff as it would be hanging down from the bars...
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Throwing together a series of vids on basic trials techniques for the club I joined a few months back, to repay them for helping a noob out so much. Keen on feedback to make sure the information is accurate. Keeping them fairly general but bits will be specific to Australia e.g. we don't have the non-stop rule yet. Available as text files from the club site here. GENERAL TRIALS INFORMATION Setting up your trials bike How to walk a section Pre-competition mechanical inspection & other pre-ride check lists How to spot for another trials rider Building man made obstacles & a practice course BASIC TRIALS TECHNIQUES Balancing on a trials bike Full lock turns and pivot turns Body positioning Wheelies on a trials bike Riding on rocks & creek beds Riding in soft sand INTERMEDIATE TRIALS TECHNIQUES Double blips and zaps Hopping the rear wheel Hopping the front wheel Using the bashplate (skidpan) Steep climbs
Creek beds & wet rocks ADVANCED TRIALS TECHNIQUES How to splatter (or spat) Holding pressure How to do floater turns Jumping gaps Flip turns
Hopping for traction EXAMPLES OF SECTIONS IN VARIOUS GRADES Specific to Australia but should still serve as a general guide. Intro grade Clubman grade C grade A & B grades CROSS TRAINING: TRIALS TECHNIQUES APPLIED TO DIRT RIDING I had a lot of guys asking about cross training so started a page here about the trials techniques that can be adapted to enduro bikes. Almost all of the top extreme enduro riders are ex-trials champs so they must be on to something!: Graham Jarvis, Jonny Walker, Chris Birch, David Knight< Andreas Lettenbichler and Taddy Blazusiak. Here is the first trials vid on how to balance on a trials bike. I just read the balance thread in this section and found out I missed mentioning that tire pressures are critical in learning to balance, doh. I figure i can put missing info in a note at the end of the vid.
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i've been riding most weekends this summer and finally settled on t-shirt, knee guards and a longish pair of shorts that go over the knee guards but allow air to move around. it ain't stylish but way cooler than anything else i've tried... just need a lot of sunblock on the arms.
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another summer training session... .love the variety of these club meets. ages from 10 to 55, bikes from 1979 hondas to the latest shercos.
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+1 on the previous comment about it being easier with the engine on. if you can do well with the engine off it will be dead easy when actually riding. agree also on trying with the front wheels both ways, it's easy to just favor your preferred side.
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everyone is right about the power side of things. i bought a sherco 290 and found the first five rides or so i was doing better on a friend's 125. but i am trying to learn fast and figure i'll grow into the 290 with time. if i was going to just dabble in trials then around 200cc would have been plenty i think.
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intriguing! a mate of mine got sick of punctures and he just shoved his rear tire full of this foam he gets from work... it's some kind of packaging material they just throw out. he jams enough in to simulate 5psi and off he goes. it does compress slowly so he just crams more in every few months, although you have to wonder if it starts to weigh a fair bit the more he puts in.
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thanks nelly. i've only just joined the club so was surprised when they asked if i'd like to mark out some sections. i thought i was laying out intro grade ones but when i rode them found they were clubman with the odd bit of C grade in them. apparently it's always harder to ride than it looks when marking them out...
laid out a few more sections on the weekend.
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stinking hot down under so the training starts at 3pm every sunday arvo. here are some of the intro and clubman sections laid out for the season. steadily getting a handle on this trials thing, and cleaning these sections more with each ride.
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yep, that can be the way. but he's certainly dedicated at the moment. i've just joined the western districts trials club and went to one of the practice sessions. filmed the young guy doing some of the sections set up for the A and B grade riders.
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i occasionally ride with a junior who has one, i think it's a 2009 model but all the basics would be the same. extremely reliable and he loves it... issues? occasionally the radiator can get dislodged during big jumps, you can cable tie it in or he says buy the radiator guard for the 2012 model which holds it better. after a few years there's a little $3 spring behind the clutch that can wear out and makes it difficult to change up gears until replaced. very cheap fix but 15 mins to an hour's work depending on how mechanical you are.
he says it was great to learn on and still goes great now that he's an experienced rider... you can see the bike is no slouch in
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personally i liked the music choice and application. even if i didn't i know the work that goes into a video and will respect the videographer's choice of music and style if i'm not paying to watch it!
on some forums guys start threads asking riders to post videos without music.... seems to be a constructive way to go about getting what you want (when you aren't paying for the videos you watch).
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some good (and not so good) tips in this video.
on a serious note, i can see why some fitness training works well. still pretty new to trials and just back from two day's worth, i can barely move today.
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the pics are definitely higher quality if using the camera function on the gopro. snapped these yesterday using the 10 photos per second setting on the gopro black.
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old topic, but i'm wondering if another tip might be to lower the front tire pressure slightly? the trials dvd i'm working my way through suggests 0.5 psi up or down on the front depending on conditions... could this be a situation where a slightly bigger footprint up front is going to make a difference?
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i think he's aiming for that as an adult so quite a few years off yet.
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someone forgot to take his chill pill... if the guy you are making a video for says he'd like music you put it in, you certainly aren't influenced by whinging taswegians in the matter.
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i'm a new rider too and a mate has a setup in his backyard. he's kept it fairly low key so it's possible to use it for the dirt bikes too. we are all pretty new to trials so the riding is nothing to look at.
i'll take pics next time of his setup. i like how he as stacked pallets at different angles on the main stack to alter the steepness of approach.
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THIS is the vid i meant to post a few days back, not us noobs, doh.
he came fifth in the recent nationals too. i figure with australia having such a small population he'd be just an average junior rider in europe or the states but he's definitely good around these parts.
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i already do that around the office when i think no one is looking, hanging out the back end when powering out of the corner around the photocopier.
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