I wonder do you have a club locally with a class for brit specials, or do you ride against the twinshocks?
I had an excellent day out with the Midland Classic club,which i've been a member of for 32 years. 80 riders for a road trial doesn't quite back up your wishful vision that the sport is finished,i'm afraid.
Its a friendly club and i'd normally say you would be made very welcome . The club has several classes to accomodate most people. They dont,however,have a troublemakers class, which would appear to be the only one you would fit into.
Whilst you may continue to disrupt these pages (for now) ,you wont be doing the same at our club.
I was waiting to see what i'd missed. I went and viewed the bike and had a bid on it. It was new unused from what i could see. Sure the tyres were grubby, but new original Michelin X1'S. I suppose
Bad luck, your lucky they have left the ECU alone,obviously just repair parts. The only thing i've see that looked sadder than that was a nearly new Sherpa Van which had the front end cut off with a Stihl saw and the engine and box nicked. A neighbour once had the drivers door and wing of her Rover nicked while it was on the drive overnight..
Looking on the bright side,if its ready for a service,nows the time to do it...
I cant think of a single part which is shared by both bikes. Everything is different. Engine,Frame,Forks Wheels,all completely different. The Seeley was produced 3 or 4 years before the TLR from memory.
I rode in '77 and remember seeing several weight saving mods on Malcolm Rathmells works 348 Montesa. One can be clearly seen in the pic- the front mudguard bracket,reduced to almost nothing!
im going to be keeping an eye on this to see which lucky bidder can afford that.
It sure looks nice, but for that sort of money i'd be expecting the distinctive correct darker gold rims,correct exhaust etc. And the tyres,Funny Michelin X1's??
Dave Thorpe and Nick Jefferies i believe were 'works' riders. (maybe BJ knows more) I can still remember Thorpey's words 27 years on,when i asked what it was like...
as usual woody is speaking from a position based on experience and knowledge,he puts forward his opinion but does not try to force
it down peoples necks !!
back to the question in hand,from my point of view the less than spectacular entries at miller rounds is due to cost and distance,last year i did the first 4 rounds,i then decided that i could`nt face the long drive,followed by a long trial ,followed by a long drive home,then an hour of bike washing. maybe i am just idle !!
For me, not riding the excellent Sammy Miller series so often is just down to cost. Everything considered, transport etc i reckon each event costs around
Well, unlike Majestyman, i've ridden an event today.Good entry,had a great time. Phoned my mates who were at another pre65 event,same again,good entry,great trial.
It would seem to me that Majestyman is either too old or incapable of riding himself and is intent on trying to ruin the sport for those that do enjoy it.
Constantly posting drivel in other threads, just to keep using the words British Specials instead of pre 65 is causing confusion to those who dont realise its his own,personal,stupid little joke.
If things are that bad,get your Majesty on e bay,if youve got one and call it a day.
Thought I would try and post a Picture of the "Scott Ellis" replica frame before it goes off to the powder coaters.
I now have most of the bits to assemble the bike after a year trawling through e-Bay to get all the parts that were needed to build the bike.
If you can open the link you will see that the photo is not that brilliant , but it was taken with the eldest's new camara that cost over a grand, so you can't expect a lot can you.
Will update you with progress of the build as it happens.
Regards.Charlie.
Nice to see some progress Charlie. Take care if your going to machine that barrel round though. The temptation is to hold it from the inside with a 3 jaw chuck. If your not very careful you can break the spigot off the top of the liner-like i did!
do i detect a bit of frustration creeping in dave ? the world is full of two types of people, those who do and those who talk.
no point in wasting your breath on the latter !!!
Professional Moaners, as i call them are often members of several different forums- often quite diverse. Once found out they simply concentate their efforts on another forum. As i write this theres probably a gardening forum somewhere, where they are all being told all their plants are going to die of a horrible disease...
Reminds me of the story about the winner of the 2 day "P65" Scottish, who suggested his cylinder looked like one from a post 65 motor, as bigger fins had been welded on to the original......................in actual fact the bike is a 290cc Cub, that probably cost at least
Cant let the bloke behind that pic of John Lampkin go unrecognised,Its Ted Breffitt,held the record for most SSDT finishes ,something like 26 on the trot. Rode an Ossa for many years. Teds dad was something of a legend up there too...
A dealers margin is his private business, at least it is until he force feeds you information about how little he is making, and in some cases even giving you a peep at his invoice from the importer!
I've no idea how much a dealer makes on a Trials bike ,but if its the figure quoted i'd be looking for a different product to sell.
Car and Commercial dealers have structures which give them cash back from the Manufacturer, giving them licence to tell half truths as to what they are really making.
Take a new VW Transporter- The most discount you are likely to get is 12% (with the dealer making just 3% if the salesman thinks you look daft enough to believe it)
What the dealer is less keen to tell you is that as soon as your van is registered they get a cheque back from VW for between
The biggest disadvantage is that no inspection sections are not fair. By that i mean they favour some riders and not others. A rider who has ridden a no inspection section at an event the previous year will know what to expect whereas a first time rider wont. A good example of this is the Weighbridge section in the Cotswold Cups trial. Its no inspection but regular riders know to look out for a sharp deviation towards the top of an otherwise traditional section. Newcomers invariable ride straight up it and five it.
Hollinsclough in the Reliance is another- regulars and locals know it like the back of their hand (and can quite legally ride up it the week before if they wish). Of course section plotters have an advantage as well if they happen to mark it out and ride, or if the landowner where these no inspection sections are happens to ride too....
I hope you are going to rebuild the BSA Mono then, Slinny told me that the shock was Girling and they were a pain in not wanting to get involved with the project. or the "MONO" shock would have become reality in 1963.
The bike actualy won a class at the Red Marley hill climb that year. Ridden by Brian Martin I think. Slinny will put me right if I am wrong.
Booth him and me Mick would be well intrested in the project as you know.
Regards Charlie.
PS I am still working out my bit about the Pre 65 classes will get back later.
Hi Charlie, No,sadly i dont seem to have the bike in question. Its interesting though how long a good idea can take to catch on. Even after sprung rear ends were offered, some riders still thought rigids were better and bought them in preference to springers for a while..
or the "works" C15 BSA with monoshock rear suspension that was made in 1964/5 be elegiable for the pre 65 scottish ??.
Slinny
I reckon i might have the actual frame here. Sadly the shock has had it ,but with a bit of work i reckon a Yam one would fit.Dont suppose you kept the log book?
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I had an excellent day out with the Midland Classic club,which i've been a member of for 32 years. 80 riders for a road trial doesn't quite back up your wishful vision that the sport is finished,i'm afraid.
Its a friendly club and i'd normally say you would be made very welcome . The club has several classes to accomodate most people. They dont,however,have a troublemakers class, which would appear to be the only one you would fit into.
Whilst you may continue to disrupt these pages (for now) ,you wont be doing the same at our club.