I have had a standard UK spec 15 model, and now a 19 model and it is very torquey and slow revving and suits my deliberate clubman level riding. It definitely goes if you open it up. I do think its a personal thing though, not for everyone and as ever try beg a quick go on one. I frequently ride our revier 250 Evo, but far prefer the 300.
Some years ago I inadvertently bought a used 250 Pro that was a grey import with weird extremely lean jetting, pilot, clip and main that gave it awful slow to mid transition. Apparently this was for emissions in wherever it came from. Repalced the jets to uk standard and it ran great.
Gas Gas introduced their ultra lightweight 'Pro' model in 2002, which is fantastic to ride, but it was too early, by about 2004, 2005 had ironed out the issues. Curiously the TXT model just prior to that, and for a year or so in parallel are great mechanically just a little heavier.
2009 Beta introduced their 'Evo' model, which did have some frame issues in the first year if ridden hard. The previous Rev model is great, a tidy one would make a great first bike, all Betas up to 2015 can suffer stator issue, but the fixes are well documented here in TC.
At that age the life and ownership it has had more important than anything.
Has the observer problem came about because clubs put so many classes and courses on giving more people a chance to ride ? when this was not the case people that could not ride observed
I think you have something here, it used to be Dads, family and friends that would observe as they began to ride less, now everyone keeps riding. In fact I would expect the median age at most club trials now is between 40 and 50. I like the idea of the AMCA MX set up where its no work, no ride, everyone in the club has to observe or no ride. Or its a continuing decline in actually observed trials, though I do wonder just how much this bothers the majority !
Yes, removed the right side additional weight on a standard 18 250, slight but noticeable difference.
The remaining flywheel is still very substantial. I understand there is another weight on the other side, either on the clutch basket or primary drive. You need the new type remover, and a very strong torx bit to remove the weight, it also uses a red thread lock, which might of come off easier if heated.
I am looking for a late model s/h 300 and noted that there appears to be a few Factory models advertised on the evil bay, does anybody have experience of the standard UK model vs the Factory model, I have had a few goes on standard 300s and consequently would like one, but do like the bling and look of the Factory if it still rides like a Beta for a regular ‘clubman’, but don’t see any at our club to scrounge a quick go.
This situation is widespread, but is just the way club trials has evolved as the average age of participants (and organisers) has increased. I'm numb to the crazed development and cost of Pre-65 Bantams etc, each to their own I guess. However I think there is a creeping problem with Experts on the Easy route, and if they are o50 and very much now o60 then you have have sympathy that they don't want to hurt themselves. However complaining that it was a bit easy, or losing the trial due to a slack dab can be very damaging to the sport as clubs do start to wind up the standard on those routes which deters newcomers, and they are probably the most important and sadly rare participant today. Lets face it, for most competitors there is probably a harder route available, for those less able or starting out there might not be an easier one.
Has it got the additional flywheel weight fitted? - a local '17 300 was making a very serious unexplained rattle until loose top hats in the flywheel was diagnosed, tweaked them up, sorted!
Does anybody know if there is an ACU suggestion for the winning marks lost for the o50 / o60 route?
the point about not wanting it any easier has been sort of addressed, half of the top 10 o40 won't see 50 again, there is a choice, need to make sure the o60s have one too.
For value and protection consider the Forma Boulder. The Gaernes are great looking and low maintenance but the synthetic leather does absorb water when splashing around in streams and they give the same protection as carpet slippers. I have smashed big toes, nails etc very painfully as a result. The don't seem to sag around the ankles like leather boots can. The Wulfsports appear similar to the Formas. I believe the Alpinestars have toe protection too. SIDI's sole can wear in a couple of years.
A friend of mine emailed the ACU to ask about the rule changes, his concern being that this might adversely impact the route for the o60s.
The ACU responded (to their credit, within a couple of days) that they had received a number of comments from o50 riders saying they often find the 50/50 too difficult.
Personally I think this is the right decision, I think it will be more appealing to wider section of riders and mean better supported events, it also restores the classes to the routes they had run for several years previously, which seemed to work, and always got a result. If its too easy then more talented o50s (and o60s) can (and do) ride the o40 class.
Thanks Hilary (MIke) - hopefully the potentially smaller entry doesn't impact the viability of the events for organisers, is it the intention to maintain the nature and severity of the events as they currently are ?
After seeing the new 803GP available at the SSDT I put one on my 13 RF Gasser, with the flanged rim. It popped off after a less than a lap of a muddy southern trial (no rocks) just like an IRC. Mounted same tyre on older style spare rim, no problems, in fact I really like the tyre. I do acknowledge that both Montesa and Beta were using them at SSDT. I think its the same old rim compatibility issue that we've all seen with IRCs, new spanish flanged rims need to have Michelins, end of.
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