I have heard from a very very reliable source that there will be no stock whatsoever of the new racing bikes and they are special order only. I have also been told that the Raga will be fancy as normal but not a new design
I personally cant see that being the case (It may well be the case but it's a real cr@ppy idea) thats not good then for the consumer.......
"Sorry Mr customer you'll have to wait for your 'racing' if you want one"?? You can then almost hear the "oh sorry they aren't making anymore" call 5 weeks after you place your order.
I cant see the point of releasing something then not making it available, especially a couple of months before you yearly special edition - Raga Rep - is launched.
The Raga rep is always built then sold so will be in stock when you want it.
tell you all now anyone who is willing to pay 5k for a gasser wants to seek medical help are you all blind a few extra bits of bling and a different carb wow !!! the bikes are vastly over priced as it is 5k for a bike that in 6 months will av a 300 quid maintanece bill so called build quality if the japs got there finger out and produced bikes that state of the art you would see build quality take the 4rt build quality this might upset the die hard gasser lads or the shirty hangers on but tuff sh*t get in the real world the sooner the price of bikes come down the better perhaps the majority of riders out there will buy a new one cheap gasser crap built to ride NOT to last try and get spares like plastics or piston kits electrics for a bike that is over 6 yrs old off shirty you might aswell p*** in the wind this should set the cat amongest the pigion as im not just speaking for myself many people think the same
agree with some of this and I'm a 'gasser lad'
shirty IMO takes the p*ss out of the people that look after him VERY handsomely. His cust service is awful when u look at someone like John Lampkin, he breaks the law with his 6 month warranty, he's made absolute hay while while the sun shines with the exchange rates and I personally have no time for him as a business man, (he may be a great bloke for all I know) or his hangers on.
One idea is if Gas Gas are trying to shift units it would have been better to do a 125 and a 250 or 280. The 300 looks great but unfortunately too much grunt for me, and i dont really want a 125
Very good shout.
I love my raga 300cc and may look at another one this year, depending on price - you'd have to say that it should be V similar to the 'racing' based on previous specs (and with exchange rates stabilising maybe even cheaper YEA RIGHT!!) and would probably look to get a 250cc now that there's a choice
They do seem to be restricting their market to youth riders and top experts who like the 300cc grunt with the Racing. Although you could easily argue that it wouldn't be a very special edition if you could get it in all flavours and also that the 250/280 aimed at clubman/expert are more than sufficient and a good
Excellent performance by Dibs. He really looks as if he has the right mental approach as well as the natural ability. Keep it up lad, especially for the outdoor series.
Of course Bou is in a class of his own - his ride on the black skips was masterful!
Brilliant event, great coverage and Bou is in a different league to everyone else.
Aside from the 'slack' 5 at the end (slack by his standards obviously ) he was CLEAN around probably the most extreme sections ever! that is scary.
And must be soooo disheartening for the others who were pretty much making up the numbers on the night.
Was super impressed with James - again, he is looking very confident. 2010 could define him in WTC
What failed on his bike when rear suspension collapsed, anyone know??? also what was Raga's issue? was it as simple as chain coming off??
Everything you wrote is the same but they are cheaper in Europe (they are still manufactured and stored and pay tax over there you know) which mean that you are being ripped of in the UK - AGAIN!
They cost sweet FA to manufacture - Gas Gas rear guard been the same for how many years now?? 8 years?? so why has the cost gone up by 50%?
Just bypass rip off UK and get them abroad and shipped over. You might need to buy afew but you'll save money and can even whack the excess stuff on ebay!
What about prices? Any gauge on these yet? Assume 2010 model a fair bit lighter than previous years! Would guess sherco engine is lighter than a 17 yr old yammy lump.
New format was OK to follow. My only problem was Fajardo and Fuji going out.
Why not have 6 in the final like always?
Only other complaints (apart from Danny McCaskill not riding ) were -
- 2 points for losing the race at beginning of TX3 : too harsh, either leave it as 1 mark or have it to purely decide riding position for TX3
- Final points scoring eg: 20pts for win, 15pts for 2nd, 12pts for 3rd... AGAIN why not leave as outdoor scoring : 20, 17, 15, 13, 11, 10 etc?? As it stands now if Bou wins next round everyone else can pretty much write of the 2010 indoor season as he will be 10 points (at the very least) clear of 2nd place. Who would catch him from there?? No one
As a regular on Trials Forum I was well aware that Danny would not be riding the event; a couple of days before Sheffield. I was very suprised that no additional riders were drafted in at short notice.
I didn't even see on here that there was no Danny McCaskill. Where was that posted? As you said though really bad that Avondale couldn't be bothered to get someone else in. Doubt it was even that short notice.
Danny would have easily known by Early/Mid December when he was due to start riding again. With that knowledge, even if he expected to be able to ride again in early January he would surely have thought 'I dont really want to be doing a big arena event first week back after not riding for 4 months' Stinks of foul play to me and would really expect an announcement from Avondale.
I quite like the new format, however they need a better way of deciding how people go rather than 'last section is timed' I really think Fajardo could have been easy 2nd on Saturday and was a real shame for everyone to miss the 'best' riders. I assume that the riders know in advance that in this instance the last section is timed. Am I right?? If that is the case then I guess Fajardo can only blame himself, however he didn't seem aware of this and there was no haste to his ride on the log section.
Maybe the top 6 should compete in the final final rather than 4.
4 Things starting with the positives then sadly moving to BIG negatives -
1: Quality Event and sections, really good : A+
2: Dibs riding was flawless throughout, absolutely awesome : A++
3: New system for dropping riders SUCKS!! Fajardo was EASILY second best rider there on the night but lost out on the times section and was rightly \mighty p*ssed off at it
4: WTF NO DANNY MCCASKILL?? ABSOLUTE DISGRACE and can only blame Avondale for this.... He has a broken collar bone and has not riden for FOUR MONTHS.... Fair enough, cant be helped but WHY was this not communicated to the paying public???? and WHY was no back up rider/display bought in??? THEY MUST HAVE KNOWN in advance that he couldn't ride and did SWEET F.A about it. Disgusting!
We had about 8 spectators around us that simply did not show for the second part of the event and that talks volumes and IMO is very damaging. Also heard 3 bikers outside in break who had literally come only to see Danny ride in this event the actual trial was an aside for them.
I think Avondale owe some sort of explanation as to why they did not communicate this AT ALL and why there was no replacement rider bought in. This ruined an otherwise brilliant night for me.
As you will have gathered my Montesa knowledge is limited to say the very least.
Rode 2 and hated them, dont like 4 strokes and think the price, styling and ride on the Montesa is horrendous.
Anyway the main gist of what I said still stands -
1: why cant Montesa just change the god awful colours of the 09 model and call it a 2010 model??? from what you say the 09 is a great bike so they could easily just colour update.
2: that Honda RTL looks GOREGOUS why cant the Montesa look that nice - ever??
3: Totally agree with Martin - the works bikes are obviously the absolute nuts, but none of this tech seems (and bear in mind that as above my Mont knowledge is limited) to get anywhere near the heavy, tall and awkward production bike - yet still Montesa charge
Based on the fact that there is no 2010 models yet, would this mean that possibly as and when there is one that Montesa have actually changed something on the bike (FINALLY!!)??
If not, why would they not just do what they normally do (put new stickers, plastics etc) on the 2009 bikes and sell the existing bits that are on the 2009 bikes: mudguards etc etc as spares?
Was riding on Sunday when I realised that I haven't seen or heard anything about a new 'use the word new loosely' Mont for 2010.
Is there one? Have I missed some huge news? Or are they just late releasing it? Shouldn't be the latter, how can you be late when all need to do is decide 'what colour to paint a 5 year old bike'
) he was CLEAN around probably the most extreme sections ever! that is scary.
) were -
2010 300cc Power
in Gas Gas
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It's basically the same bike so should be identical.
I find the 300cc nice and soft off the bottom, but you'll also find some people think its a bit racey of the bottom.
You can buy gaskets to soften it more or modify the head.