the artist formerly known as ish Posted April 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 I'm just tired of reading the same rubbish every time anyone posts anything about their bike, regardless of make, anyone trying to solve a problem gets met with "well if you had bought the brand I ride you wouldn't have these problems. The truth is!! since the seventies only once have I failed to complete an event because of a mechanical failure, and I must of ridden about every popular brand at some time. Calling any brand crap or whatever doesn't do trials any-good, more likely it will scare people away from trials than make them go buy bike. Four of us are riding the Scottish together in a few weeks time, all of us are on different brands, what a foolish person I would be if I judged them lads on what bike they rode rather than their personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky g Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Slight change of subject...Marky G...I'm eagerly awaiting some piccies of your alterations to the Scorpa 125....are they not finished yet??....if they are..then stop teasing us,,,I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting to see that lovely new fuel tank etc. Hi Stu Bike should be ready this weekend for collection, the Stainless pipe proved to be too expensive in the end...so I've gone for chrome instead. Will post pics when done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne thais Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Ishy, thanks for the post, I used to wash my bike and then immediately start it up until David Chaves told me not to. I removed the fender and was amazed at the amount of water under it. I have never gotten water in the air box while riding but there is something about using a hose that allows water to get under the fender. I seem to get more water in there using the garden hose. The pressure washer doesn't get as much water under the fender. I don't like taking the airbox out so I remove the fender before I wash the bike and put a piece of duct tape over the air inlet, I also put a shop towel over that, I then reinstall the fender and wash the bike. Water does not get into the airbox. I think that if Marky G will agree the only time he got water in his airbox was during the washing process. NEVER START THE BIKE IMMEDIATELY AFTER WASHING WITHOUT MAKING SURE THERE IS NO WATER IN THE AIRBOX. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta boy Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 put a drain hole on the bottom of the airbox so aftwer you have washed it remove the screw and out comes the water i use mine all the time best thing i ever did to my bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 I don't know that much about Beta airboxes, but for that to do anything on a sherco water would have to be going through the filter. Even my basic mechanical knowledge tells me that is bad, very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta boy Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 wel on my bike you can just pull the mudguard off cause it is cable tied on and the lid of the airbox is kept on buy this peice of rubber so i pull the wet filter out put the new one in and start the bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Oh dear dear dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne thais Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Let's see, water in the airbox = water in the air filter = water in the engine. Is my equation correct? Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta boy Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 um yes it but when you drain it out the airbox and change the filter it dont make a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta boy Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 well on betas it is water enters the airbox lid goes through filter sit in the bottom of the airbox wich is 2 inches from where the air goes into the carb so when you let it out and cgange the filter it is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 (edited) Unfourtunately it probably isn't fine at all. You need to dry and make sure everything after the filter intake is spotless, because that is the filters job. Edited April 8, 2004 by Nigel Dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Can you tell me the size of the door seal used to seal around the top of the air box? it looks to be about 1/2" square. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Pardon my inadequacies in the English language but can you tell me what "draught excluder foam" is? .....Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechitlins Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Weatherstripping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 The problem is not neccessarily the water, as small amounts of water will pass through the engine with no problem, it is the dirt and grit that washes through the filter WITH the water. As it is in a contained area it can sit for long periods of time without evaporating as well. It only takes a few sand particles to bind the throttle slide! This usually happens when starting/ riding the bike after washing just about the time you hit third gear and roll the throttle on jostleing around the muck that has accumulated in the bottom of the box. The throttle slide will then stick without warning at 1/2 or better opening! It will really get your attention as you are burning up those tiny brakes trying to stop that moving freight train enough to remove one hand from the bars and hit the kill button! I have done some testing using Ishy's method and it seems to work well, but as with anything else it is not foolproof. Water hoses and pressure washing may still allow small amounts to get in, so checking it after washing is still cheap insurance, or just pull it apart before washing. In addition to Ishy's mods, I have installed plastic screen mesh to the filter retainer. This keeps the big chunks of garbage out of the filter and actually seems to help divert some of the water droplets as well. As the filter is now only catching the dirt for which it was designed instead of twigs, leaves and grass, it reduces the neccessity to wash the element and prolongs its life. Most hardware stores will give you enough scrap household screen mesh (black of course) to do several bikes. Rough up the top surface of the retainer and cut a piece to fit and glue it on. I used 3M black weatherstrip adhesive, a thin covering is all it takes, but other products may work. At first glance it looks like it may be restrictive to the air inlet, but I can tell no difference in performance. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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