copemech Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) I think he got it!@ I have been witness to some of the tight ones going on, with proper lube, and took the full power of the compressor at over 100 psi!!!!! Scarey! I attribute mostly to the rims themselves, as it does seem they can vary a bit! Edited August 22, 2009 by copemech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan collier Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Thanks Team, going for it again this morning with more lube. It's being fitted in readiness for the Manx 2 day. I've been advised to give it a few miles on the road to soften up the tyre wall which sounds reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y04jscown Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 fairy luquid and alot of pressure should do it i had the same problam but be warned it does go of with an very loud ping type sound when it does pop out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Thanks Team, going for it again this morning with more lube. It's being fitted in readiness for the Manx 2 day. I've been advised to give it a few miles on the road to soften up the tyre wall which sounds reasonable? Is the first section that close to the start? An old tyre or a run in one is always softer, but I wouldn't take the edge off a new one to do it. If you had a beader then you could turn the tyre on saturday evening if you were keen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 fairy luquid and alot of pressure should do it i had the same problam but be warned it does go of with an very loud ping type sound when it does pop out Try to use tyre soap as fairy liquid will stay there and help the tyre off should it deflate. tyre soap (you can always get a bit from your local tyre place) seems to disappear(?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 fairy luquid and alot of pressure should do it i had the same problam but be warned it does go of with an very loud ping type sound when it does pop out Fairy liquid has salt in it which wont improve alloy rims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 If you are bold.......you can try this method! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_e1suUBoT0...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vboJDpXU5ng...feature=related Good luck! Now i'm getting desperate...I hate seating a new tyre so has anyone tried the blow on method? Do you leave the valve in/out? Do you have to inflate with air ,pronto,when it pings (twice) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jse Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Now i'm getting desperate...I hate seating a new tyre so has anyone tried the blow on method?Do you leave the valve in/out? Do you have to inflate with air ,pronto,when it pings (twice) ? The 20" bicycle tube works well with lots of lubricant. You probably don't need to take the valve core out as you'll be adding the air while easing the bike tube out, but sometimes it helps. Make sure the tire is warm and the rim is very clean. I store my new tires with a tube inflated in them to spread out the bead. I usually carry my vintage bike along so storing the tubes in the tires makes them easier to use if I need them. It makes mounting new tires a cinch as they are easy to lever on and I don't have to use a beader to inflate. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Cheers, tyre was very cold (wouldn't seat using the inner-tube beader or ratchet strap method) so it's now in the house warming up next to the Christmas tree....I'm in a hurry as I want to take the bike out in the street 'cos it's blocked with snow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) I did a new Mich for a mate Tuesday that had been in his shed for ages, beads of tyre were touching all the way round and the temp of the tyre was cold. The tyre beader makes putting a tubeless on a piece of p***, can't beleive people don't buy them who have to do the job its so worth the money and hassle. Get the tyre back on the wheel Lay it on the floor Take the valve out Use tyre soap over the beader and some on tyre walls both sides Inflate untill the beader pops out Keep inflating untill you hear a double pop (can be up to 80 lbs ish) Stick valve back in whilst tyre is deflating Pump up to 50-60 lbs and leave over night to let the soap dry Job done and you still have hair and mental integrity, why struggle like **** trying to do it the old way when theres something on the market that makes things easy? I'm off in the shed in abit to turn the IRC, be done in 15 mins Edited January 1, 2010 by The Addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 HAM 2 given I have two beaders in the Baldilocks garage and a compressor its probably quicker to drive over here. I would prefer you to p--s about with a strap first just for my entertainment however and then I 'll do it in 5 mins with the proper kit ! happy new year mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky g Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 never had the need to use a beader myself, spread the tyre with an old inner tube first, leave overnight (IRC comes with cardboard spacers) lube the tyre up, valve core out, good compressor and jobs a good un. if it wont seal firstly, stand it up and push it against a wall as you pump, use your leg to apply pressure also......it don't take much...........the problem lies when they tyres have been stacked on top of each other at the stockist or dealers, hence the use of a tube to spread the tyre again. A good powerful comp and taking the valve out is the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Cheers, tyre was very cold (wouldn't seat using the inner-tube beader or ratchet strap method) so it's now in the house warming up next to the Christmas tree....I'm in a hurry as I want to take the bike out in the street 'cos it's blocked with snow!!! And exactly why do you need a new tire to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 HAM 2given I have two beaders in the Baldilocks garage and a compressor its probably quicker to drive over here. I would prefer you to p--s about with a strap first just for my entertainment however and then I 'll do it in 5 mins with the proper kit ! happy new year mate Are you two really that close? Sounds as though you need to give him some proper lessons! As Dabster said, the tire lube is critical as well at times. I have the worlds finest! At least that is what it says on the jug, and I do believe it may be correct! This stuff is better than sex lube! Used with a beader, it is childsplay really! Makes life a lot easier when I have to do it over because the goddam rimtape! Or valvestem! Still if these things are not perfect you are screwed! I'm ordering one of them rimtapes with intergrated valvestem to use next time around! Screw them things! Tell you now youare better off throwing the little spacer thing away! POS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Cope is your Sherco an 06 or 07 ? my 07 came with the intergrated valve and since they came out I've never had to seal a rim tape, its been ok straight out of the box on my 07 Sherco and 09 gas gas. definitlely the way forward if you dont have one already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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