I think people of all countries have similar issues to a greater or lesser extent. People have a need to form an allegiance to a side in politics but also in lots of other areas of their lives, wherever there is discussion.
Normally on TC our tribes or allegiances are the brand of bike we ride, or boots we wear or stop / no stop. We see the same behaviours as we see in current politics , when peoples opinions are threatened this motivates a need to respond, its often an emotional response not a calm , thought out, considered response.
People move the conversation when challenged to an area where they think they have the upper hand. Best boots ? First Post goes " Oh definitely Gaerne are the most comfortable" next post ....." yes but they don't protect your feet, no toe cap, ankle support not the best". This is actually a reasonable conversation in that all of the comments are at least valid to me in terms of my personal experience.
The stop / no stop conversation is more polarised and both camps ignore some truths. No stop is a farce even at local trials as it is so inconsistently observed and also because sections are often not suited to those rules. But sitting in queues while people who can't hop try to is very frustrating, trials where you have to hop all the time are frustrating too.
We get a more polarised view with this issue as there are only two options. We also see that people ignore the issues with the stance they have taken and just look at the positives. This has facilitated no progress on this issue, to make progress we need to deal in reality, to move forward we need both sides to recognise the weaknesses in their arguments and address them.
In politics now we see a similar game but with much higher stakes. Two political camps or tribes if you wish.
Democrat v Republican
Leave v Remain
Labour v Conservative
In the brexit campaign both sides were guilty of preaching absolute crap but nobody cared, people picked a side and stuck with it through thick and thin. Everyone knew the nhs would not be £350m better off, a few less knew that as a large part of the workforce were foreign if you stopped immigration there'd be nothing to spend that money on anyway. Equally although we are worse off in my view the remain campaign overplayed the impact , they didn't deal enough reality.
America is in a worse place, they seem so far removed from reality its absolutely incredible. Im watching people get interviewed and I don't know how they survive day to day. Do these people think spiderman is a documentary? They have nailed their colours to Republican or Trump or Democrat and they will grasp any story , no matter how far fetched to attack the opposition rather than consider the weakness of their own position.
At the moment Trump / Republicans are the Toni Bou equivalent in this field
Stolen election, Q anon, birther movement , Biden is controlled by China, it just goes on and on. Im sure there will have been times when democrats have presented some fanciful tales too but has it ever been this extreme ?People spouting this stuff don't deserve our attention. They need to be left alone to reflect on their conduct in the fullness of time, nobody will enjoy the experience.
We will not make progress while this behaviour continues. We need to expect better , if you need to make stuff up to win then you need to think again.