Any thoughts please? Yes it's a Mick Mills type frame.

If it's not eligible for the Scottish....can you please send it to New Zealand, what a stunning C15.

So is that a yes or a no?

You're not going to get a definitive answer on a forum as there is only one way you will know and that is to send pictures to the secretary of the event and ask them. You'll get all sorts of opinion on a forum but only one counts.

It shouldn't be eligible as the frame isn't a copy of a Pre65 BSA frame (and as far as I'm aware the Mills frame isn't eligible) But as we know, bikes that clearly don't meet entry criteria and shouldn't be accepted, sometimes are - maybe it depends on the rider....

If you're thinking of entering with it I'd send the email first. If you just send in an entry, if it is rejected on the grounds that it isn't eligible, by the time you find out it may be too late to enter on something that is

Hi Guy's.

Hi Ken,

You know it is a NO mate.

Because of the hypocrisy that is the Scottish Two Day Trial.

Most Machines in that One trial should be in a "Specials" class.

But they have there rules, that still dictates what a SO Called Pre65 Trials machine should be like.

And these rules have created the unaffordable Specials that dominate the scene today.

Why do you think that we have only a smattering of Big bikes that are still competing in trials, Because the sections are designed for the 10K machine.

And not the one out of the shed.

But you know you have rattled my perch. or I would not be writing this.

Regards Charlie.

and no unit construction model would even be considered for the 'pre-65' class -

purely out of curiosity, why not? Unit singles are genuine pre65

I rode my Mick Mills framed C15 in Scotland a few years ago and was allowed to ride but was told not to take it back again.The following year we had to send in pictures of the bike we intended to ride.

Hi Wallo,

Bikes fine it just depends "who you are"

Still holding back the tide.

I have a couple of simple questions:

What bike should I buy, is it pre65 eligible & what two stroke mix should I use?

I've missed this happy banter.

those fine drayton bantams are eligible and yet only the swing arm pivot point is original the rest is newly fabricated in the style of but not like a bantam onther than they are twinshock and have two wheels..

you fine c15 would be welcome at Yorks classic and the NBBR yet i fearthe frame will not pass muster on the scottish play.. sorry trial.

you fine c15 would be welcome at Yorks classic and the NBBR yet i fearthe frame will not pass muster on the scottish play.. sorry trial.

Carbs must be Amal, except if you've a cub, then it's ok to have a Dellorto !!

ps. to deryk

sadly no shawforth shake this year and perhaps for sometime as the wind turbine boys want to play on the moor..

and.. i know of a quality magazine available at any newsagent in the country from a local publisher with half a dozen local folk writing/editing that makes a loss with each and every issue.now quarterly instead of monthly and most of the sales now subscription... paper costs and ink have simply made them too expensive at retail to consume in large numbers as we once did. Equally the interweb has everything you need to know so demand falls so costs per copy increase..

Carbs must be Amal, except if you've a cub, then it's ok to have a Dellorto !!

thats the problem with a democratic club the members can vote for the rules and if a majority agree the rule is made.. other clubs are available but if you know of another purely pre65 bike club with a membership the equal of Yorks classic i d be surprised, if you know of another purely pre65 bike club organising as many pre65 bike trials as Yorkshire classic i d be surprised. i you know of any pre 65 bike club that has more riders than yorks classic i d be surprised. if you know of anywhere as good as yorkshire id be amazed add to that trials add to that pre65 and its a recipe that cant be beaten anywhere in the world... Carlsberg couldnt do better..

Are there really scores of pre unit big bangers sat in their sheds waiting for a suitable trials series? Pre 65 in '72 was for bikes just a few years past their sell by date being ridden by blokes who'd grown up with those sort of bikes.( hence the growing popularity of twin shocks and air cooled monos now)

Surely the fact that 40yrs later people are still interested in pre 65 shows that it's not all gloom and doom, most don't ride £10k bikes after all..?

As for people entering the sport thinking they can buy their way to the top, surely that's the same for every type of mechanised sport or hobby.

It's not a pageant of how it used to be in the 'good old days' , you can't buy an HT or comp Bullet for £500 and ride it to the event, and would you want to !