September 18, 20187 yr No more or less than all the other guys that do the exact same thing... sometimes it's called, sometimes it isn't. But again, this is the fault of the rules. If we haven't figured out by all the arguing and debate that goes on regarding whether it was or wasn't a stop that these rules suck, I give up.
September 18, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, heffergm said: No more or less than all the other guys that do the exact same thing... sometimes it's called, sometimes it isn't. But again, this is the fault of the rules. If we haven't figured out by all the arguing and debate that goes on regarding whether it was or wasn't a stop that these rules suck, I give up. The rules are quite simple, which bit don't you understand ????
September 19, 20187 yr 3:10. Stop or not? He didn't get called for it, he just didn't make the hit. You can save the condescension, I'm not interested. https://youtu.be/d02CzoDHfKc
September 19, 20187 yr They all stop in pretty much every section now which just makes the no stop 'rule' a massive farce. everyone knows it and the poor old observers have to police it - with seemingly zero support / back up from Trial GP Sport7 To the letters of the rules yes, clear stop and clear 5 in that section. Assuming every rider is marked to the same 'rule' then its all good (although more farcical) as you said Martyn got away with that stop but 5'd the step. Had he got up then yes he'd have 'got away' with a stop.
September 19, 20187 yr My point was simply that I'm in agreement with your first paragraph. The rules are ridiculous because they cannot be uniformly applied.
September 19, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, heffergm said: 3:10. Stop or not? He didn't get called for it, he just didn't make the hit. You can save the condescension, I'm not interested. https://youtu.be/d02CzoDHfKc Sorry if I offended you flower. 3:10 ? What else but a five ?? Name a single sport where rules are uniformly applied.
September 19, 20187 yr The rules are only half of the equation however, organisers insist on putting in sections which require stopping. The riders and observers then have to make the best of it. If the sport , and I mean all of us, think this is the only way to take marks and it's the style of section that riders and spectators want then change the rules. @b40rt has a point however, it's always going to be a matter of judgement just like a referee in football regardless of which rules are used. The objective, from a fairness point of view, is to reduce the amount of judgement required
September 19, 20187 yr 6 hours ago, heffergm said: 3:10. Stop or not? He didn't get called for it, he just didn't make the hit. You can save the condescension, I'm not interested. https://youtu.be/d02CzoDHfKc 3:26 not only stop but foot down along with. smh --Biff
September 19, 20187 yr Why not have all the sections like the qualifying section, all done on time and marks lost then you can stop as long as you want ???
September 19, 20187 yr So is time the decider if they are all on the same score like in qualifying? @john collins said years ago we need no stop sections with stop permitted rules. A lot of sense in that and everybody wins. Of course right now we have the opposite
September 19, 20187 yr Go watch all the YouTube video you can stand of the Spanish and Japanese national championships. Time limit once you enter, do anything you want in the section (short of the obvious stuff, like go backwards through a gate, etc). Stop, back up, whatever. It's fantastic. Edited September 19, 20187 yr by heffergm
September 19, 20187 yr I wish everyone did it the way it’s done in Japan and Spain! love watching videos of there events. Edited September 19, 20187 yr by jonnyc21
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