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I need to check my Rev 3 frame: Looking at the hi-res photo where is the top of that carb going? It appears the top would almost go up to the fender height. Is there room in the standard rev 3 frame for this or is this another mod like the forward braces. It does look like the easiest way to get the carb on the Rev3-4t out would be to take the air box off. No matter what the official model designation I say we just call it Rev4 cause it's easier than rev3-4rt. Rev 4 is a marketing gift, a no brainer.

Don't know if this is ok to post, but more pictures on: http://www.mototrial.it/ Babblefish: two chiles more than the 2 st." What's a chile.

Just as a heads up: Carbon Fiber and aluminum are not always compatible. When carbon fiber is to be assembled next to machined (un-coated) aluminum a layer of fiberglass is embedded in the carbon ply lay up next to the aluminum to pre-vent a galvanic reaction. Corrosion. Aircraft manufactures substitute titanium in place of aluminum. This is third hand but I have heard by mixing electrical current on the Mag side the problem is worst. Something to watch for anyway. Forks are sprayed with a clear coat so it is not a problem.

My friend sent me this link today about the Canadian tradition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOB3e3u-BaQ Andy, I have to admit I saw the change in the header but it did not come to mind what the red dot was. In America, I remember as a boy (40+) many years ago the red poppy's for sale to help remember the veterans. Back then as a kid, without a war being fought on our own shores, it was hard to imagine what these veterans went through and what the cost of freedom was. It's sad to say I haven't seen a poppy in years, perhaps I was oblivious with my self centered life. Now at 50 and having a son in the military, serving in the most dangerous places, I now am painfully aware of the sacrifices our veterans, their wives, and children, have made in the past and in the future. As my son told me the troops are there to complete a mission designated from their boss, whoever and whatever it may be a the time. It's there job they have chosen, and they accept that. But he went on, "we fight, with the goal to protect each other, so we may all go home together." Brothers in Arms and perhaps make the world a better place to live. Perhaps in a America it is not too late to renew poppy tradition and just maybe start the two minute silence tradition as our neighbors to the north. Let us hope next veterans day we will have many more veterans home with us.

REV 4 I presume?

Try heating up and bending back "carefully". Worth a try. Quench in cold water after straighten. Better to bend shifter than break or bend shifter shaft. No aftermarket that I know of.

Heath, If you have the clutch side counter weight on your 250 and you still want more snap you can (simply) remove the clutch side weight. The US importer said some riders in the US do this. There is a Beta Tech sheet that outlines the procedure. I was actually going to put one of these counter weights on my 270 to give it a try. Got the clutch basket off, but did not have the proper gear puller for the job. The counter weight shown on the beta web site is the one for the clutch side and presses on the gear attached to the crank shaft. A couple of riding buddies of mine have switched out the 270 head for a 250 head, therefore running no weights, and are very happy with the results. Although, just started to rain here last weekend, so one buddy put the flywheel weight back on and I witnessed a noticable improvement in his riding in the muck. He agreed. For me I prefer the 270 with the Uk flywheel weight. Feels like I can approach the steps with a less speed than their 250, but the added inertia helps carry to the 270 to the top, less over shoot, more control. The 270/250, two weights, options help tailor the Beta engine to each individual's style and ability. Pretty good set up if you ask me. BTW - Mikuni carb has never given me a problem with the floats set to proper height. Not sure why others have this problem. Maybe lucky? Jack

I am the guy in the U.S. that traded Heath for the flywheel weight. I live in the wet , muddy northwest, the flywheel weight tames the power in my 270. We have have found the flywheel weight in the slippy is wonderful, compared to stock. The v-force reeds just make the 270 too quick for my ability. Heath, you have a 250 right? Don't those come stock with the counter weight on the clutch side also? Which would mean in the UK the 250 would have both weights installed, right? In the US the 250's come with the clutch side weight and the 270's do not. (06's) None come with flywheel weights. I am not sure about the 250's but the 270's in the US comes with a fast throttle. I guess what I am getting at is by taking your flywheel weight off your basicly running it stock compare to everyone except for the UK versions. Is that correct? Jack

Highland, Great pictures,but what we really need to see is some side by side shots of a 07 and a 06. Like a step ladder shot top view. And a side shot one 06 behind the 07 to see the differences. You gotta have a 06 just laying around some where. Can you have that posted in couple hours? ...... Ok tomorrow maybe....... Jack

I think they missed a color.

I tried the V-force reeds and was at first really impressed with the instant snap off the bottom. However I have recently switched back to stock reeds as my riding ability does not match the quickness they give. Found they got me in trouble...well more than I normally get into. A top rider may have a different opinion but I also noticed Bou's, Dabil's, Brown's, bike at the world round appeared to be running stock or at least not the V-force reeds as far as I could tell.

I was at the US WTC and witnessed the LED's. Was told that there were three settings: Green light on - Blue Light on - both Green & Blue on at the same time. Don't know about specific settings. Would imagine each rider has thier own custom settings. I did see the HRC tech interfacing via wireless (bluetooth), laptop computer to the bike. I noticed the same on the wheels, they had both orange and gold in use at the US round. I wondered about the gold hubs on the gold wheels also, perhaps magnesium maybe?

It's not that little plastic flap that's on the outside face of the sprocket like your 315. This guard on the Lewisport link prevents the chain from doubling back on itself. What can happen when the chain comes off the rear sprocket, two side by side links may try to fit between the area between the 4rt counter sprocket and the case cover. Obviously there is not enough room, so they wedge in the gap damaging the cover. It's not a pretty sight, I witnessed it first hand and had to dig the chain out and find all the case fragments to make sure they did not get in the engine somewhere. By the way you can't pull the clutch fast enough if the chain decides to wedge itself. One in a million chance? How lucky do you feel.... I think there is more room on a 315 engine to allow two links to pass.

My riding buddy had it happen when a stump peeled the chain off the rear sprocket. Chain wrapped itself between the mag case and sprocket. Mag. case lost. Took out the electrical pick-up also. Barely caught the center case but was able to file it clean. $750 later he was back in business. As I remember Fuji had the same problem in an 05 WTC. Maybe that's why they are running them this year. The guard's one of those precautions that in the long run could be good insurance.

Jay, I agree 100%. I was anticipating a 10 sec spot. I was surprised the lead up showing all the outdoor stuff to give the layman a short education about the sport. The applause light may have been on but the judges and audience looked very impressed. Today at work people were coming up to me and saying so that's what trials is, they were amazed at the control these guys had on the bike. Great job Chris and Keith. Jack

Lane, You may want to do double check on the profits made in U.S WTC. Not 100% sure, but I can pretty much tell you investing your money in a 3% low yield savings account might be more profitable than investing in a U.S. WTC. Also much less head aches. You might make enough to cover your expenses and pay yourself minimun wage for all your time and effort. In fact the clubs in first round in Minn. had to raffle a bike after the balance sheet was tallied to recoup. Lane: I know, I know, if you put a WTC on it would make millions and you would donate profits to the youth riders plus pay a 85% purse.

Frank, I was there Friday-Sunday. When Taddy's wicked that Scorpa on, it sounded like a 450 4-stroke moto-cross bike. Perhaps the production bike was quiet, but I wasn't impressed with Taddy's.

I did not actually know how to spell it, but I was certain it was not "staff", so I googled it. Staph Infection as in Staphylococcus Lane, now we both know. Nothing to mess around with. Lane,Hope it clears up soon.

That's an interesting observation. So does that mean if you lived in an area that had a active local club it might have peaked your interest enough to go watch an event before the WTC came to town? I know your promoting American riders in the WCT to gain national exposure. But by your own statement that has been your only exposure. However it is not feasible to have WCT in every major region of the U.S. Wouldn't it make more sense to have active local clubs in each region of the U.S. sparking that new interest and actually have venue new riders can come watch, and participate in?

Have you noticed that Lane and Nasqam never post at the same time? Could it be they are one and same? Maybe Lane making his own allies up? Just Kidding now don't take it serious.

Alan, For us old guys, this question will definitely date us and may not be relevant to info you are trying to collect. In the Pre-DVD, Pre-video era, my only exposure was in Dirt Bike Magazine when they covered the international events and nationals. This was in the day of the introduction of the Japanese trials bikes. I remember seeing that aluminum tank RL250 Suzuki at the local dealer that peaked my interest. However, being the fanatic I am, it was not what the world champ, Martin Lampkin and new champ Malcolm Rathmell was riding. I remember reading the test write up of the 348 Cota. So I drove to another city to see that first year COTA 348 Malcolm Rathmell Replica. Not knowing what trials really was I still could tell this was a serious machine. That was it, never even seeing an actual trials event I knew that was the bike I wanted and the sport I wanted to be involved in. I remember driving 5 hours to get to my first event and I was reading about the rules in a book I just bought. I can't remember who wrote it but Mick Andrews was on the cover riding what looked like a SSDT section. That's how it started for me. Eventhough my first exposure to trials was in print and coverage of events, I did the same thing about 6 years later in windsurfing this time without any world cup competition exposure. Jumped in both feet, no looking back. Nsaqam, When I first started this reply I was going to ask you how you became so involved and jazzed about a sport you have only seen 4 trials but never rode one event yourself. Also it seemed you were being a little league Dad already without your daughter riding an event. However after recounting my history, how in the heck can I be critical of your zeal for the sport? I would be a hypocrite wouldn't I? Good for you, keep working your ideas, but remember this forum means nothing. Actually presenting your ideas to the governing body is what you have to do. Don't turn your back on the NATC, no matter what Lane would have you believe. These people truly have the best intentions for the sport and the bottom line, the ones doing the work not just talking about it. Jack

nasqam:

Guys, As you can tell Ken's post got me going. Sorry Ken I was a little hard on you. You know there are many people in this sport that just have a true passion for this sport called observed trials. I felt it need to be pointed out. It's not because we are trying for a World or National title and it's certainly not for financial gain. We just enjoy riding with our good friends. It hard to explain, but even out just fun riding, it's like us old guys are 12 years old again. We constantly play the "bet you can't clean this" game. Often "bet you won't try this...., or "you can do this, I know I can, unless your chicken." Nothing beats that rush you feel when you clean that section before your riding mate or go up that obstacle that had your butt puckered. For that split second in your minds eye your as good as the world champ you watch videos of. It doesn't matter what brand of bike your riding, or what year of bike. Trials just has the bond that is very cohesive. I know this is straying from the topic, but to most of us club riders, it's like Ishy said it's for the enjoyment of riding. If you have an upcoming son or daughter, don't forget to make it fun, forget the title chase. Let them decide to do it. In the end when your son or daughter comes up and says, "Dad you remember that time we ......... That's what it's about.

Ok nsagam, You come on the forum having never ridden a trials event and did I get it right, you don't have a bike, just purchased one and all of a sudden are making statements without first checking the facts: You know there is a saying "it matters not what you have done in the past what have you done lately.

Any news on the engine size?