August 16, 200917 yr Hey guys, Here's my first post.... I was thinking about getting back into trials but I would like to find a bike that can ride around at 50km/h (or 80) as well. I don't know if this exists, or if it is physically possible. My 280 pro was perfect on trails and trials, but I couldn't ride top gear for more than a minute. I know the bikes aren't meant for that, but can any of the bikes do that? How about the Scorpa Long ride? I don't really want a seat but I'll deal with it if I have to! Thanks for any ideas you guys have. Jay
August 16, 200917 yr Author I should mention I live in BC Canada, so I'm usually climbing pretty hard on logging roads. My Gas Gas would overheat to quick to really have fun, and I always felt like I was killing it ( not in the good way ). Are the 4 strokes any better than 2 strokes at speed for long periods? I guess what I'm asking is, is it OK to climb 10km of logging road on a trials bike, and if it is which is the best one? Sounds like you sure have no problems on your Sherco, and obviously you know your stuff, so maybe there was a problem with my Gas Gas. Thanks for whatever input you guys have, I'm sure my questions sound rediculous, but I'm halfway between a KTM 200 exc and a trials bike and thought this might be the place to ask. To picture the riding terrain here think "Last Man Standing" meets gnarly mountain bike trails Edited August 16, 200917 yr by corex
August 16, 200917 yr I think the Scorpa SY125 four stroke would cope with this very well (and there are probably some others too). But all of the 2t's would struggle as their cooling systems are not designed for this type of use.
August 16, 200917 yr As Pete says the trials bike with such small radiaters and fan systems are designed for ''the slow stuff'' 4-strokes do cope a lot better I have a 4RT never touched the coolant it has been round the SSDT twice and loads of road based trials. And the 4RT is no ''Tortoise'' on the road
August 16, 200917 yr As Pete says the trials bike with such small radiaters and fan systems are designed for ''the slow stuff'' 4-strokes do cope a lot better I have a 4RT never touched the coolant it has been round the SSDT twice and loads of road based trials.And the 4RT is no ''Tortoise'' on the road 4rt every time it sounds like the tool for you, forget the scorpa if you want decent trials performance.
August 16, 200917 yr 4rt everytime, never had problem with mine and they like rockets on road. Although im changing bike to new manufacture for 2010 cannot comment on that one.
August 16, 200917 yr I should mention I live in BC Canada, so I'm usually climbing pretty hard on logging roads. My Gas Gas would overheat to quick to really have fun, and I always felt like I was killing it ( not in the good way ). Are the 4 strokes any better than 2 strokes at speed for long periods? I guess what I'm asking is, is it OK to climb 10km of logging road on a trials bike, and if it is which is the best one? Sounds like you sure have no problems on your Sherco, and obviously you know your stuff, so maybe there was a problem with my Gas Gas. Thanks for whatever input you guys have, I'm sure my questions sound rediculous, but I'm halfway between a KTM 200 exc and a trials bike and thought this might be the place to ask. To picture the riding terrain here think "Last Man Standing" meets gnarly mountain bike trails Well the constant long climbs at speed would indeed be a different problem . A 4rT may indeed get on better in those conditions. Steve Fracy lives up there and rides the 4T Sherco. Would have to ask him how it does in the logging roads.
August 16, 200917 yr Mont 4RT is the bike you need. They don't overheat. Best bike for the trail. Most reliable for those long BC mountain rides. Totally flogable. Edited August 16, 200917 yr by for artie
August 16, 200917 yr for long rides flatt out the trick is put the choke on because it alows more feul though and keeps it cooler
August 16, 200917 yr Author Wow, lots of montesa riders! Sounds like 4 stroke is the way for me... Thanks for all the responses guys! Sounds like this might be managable after all. Anyone have experience with how the Sherco would hold up for this application? Shercos are easier to find around here.
August 16, 200917 yr For the type of riding you have described the Mont is better than the Sherco 4T. Can't beat Mont's Fuel Injection. Here is one For Sale in Vancouver 2007 Monty Edited August 16, 200917 yr by for artie
August 17, 200917 yr For the type of riding you have described the Mont is better than the Sherco 4T. Can't beat Mont's Fuel Injection.Here is one For Sale in Vancouver 2007 Monty Do sherco have the starting problem sorted on the 4t. I wouldn't want to break down, exhausted from kicking the thing and then hello grizzly!
August 17, 200917 yr and then hello grizzly! ................one look at you Andrew and the Grizzly would run back into the forest
August 17, 200917 yr I love the Beta 4T it runs more consistent than my 2T used to run. Get a Beta EVO 4T 300cc. It is jetted rich from the factory and will run flat out all day with no issues. It is a much cheeper bike too!
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