old trials fanatic Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 See there's another "Majesty" on ebay. ref 190455109718 Now i am not the authority on Majestys but it looks just a std TY with a Majesty tank and repositioned shock top mounts to me. Plus would be a problem where to ride it as not eligable for ACU events due to the front disc. So Majesty officionados is it a Majesty or just Mutton dressed as Lamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Just had another look,saw it earlier this evening and it sort of rang bells then.I'd say its not a proper one,main reason being there is so much space between the cyl head and the top tube/tank.All the real ones I've seen are quite tight just there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gii Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) You're very quick to condemn. I'm Not so sure. Clearances and bash plate height (2.1/2" higher than standard) look similar to this one http://www.tytrials.co.uk/sitefiles/tytrials/35818/Majesty%20Article%203.pdf Can't get the link to work properly, but it's on www.tytrials.co.uk if you go looking Edited October 11, 2010 by GII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Not a Majesty, engine hasn't been lifted. Shock mounts are in a different position from Majesty. Seller may genuinely believe it's a Majesty, I'm not suggesting someone is knowingly trying to pass off a copy as a proper one as I have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Just had another look,saw it earlier this evening and it sort of rang bells then.I'd say its not a proper one,main reason being there is so much space between the cyl head and the top tube/tank.All the real ones I've seen are quite tight just there.... Like this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 That looks more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted October 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Like this..... Nah cant be a Majesty. Doesnt say Majesty on the tank. Obvious innit Thought i was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedco Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 A nice bike, Majesty tank, re located shock mount, MAJESTY sticker..... but, If you look at the close up photo of the engine, there is a gap above the spart plug, on the majesty the ht cap is tight up against the frame, - even though shirty cut out that part of the frame, The front down tubes are bent back on a majesty, this one has straight tubes. Also, on a majesty, the main spine of the frame almost touches the back of the carb. Only slight differences between a ty & a majesty - but a lot of work if you were to try & copy it! ....... a fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted October 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) A nice bike, Majesty tank, re located shock mount, MAJESTY sticker..... but, If you look at the close up photo of the engine, there is a gap above the spart plug, on the majesty the ht cap is tight up against the frame, - even though shirty cut out that part of the frame, The front down tubes are bent back on a majesty, this one has straight tubes. Also, on a majesty, the main spine of the frame almost touches the back of the carb. Only slight differences between a ty & a majesty - but a lot of work if you were to try & copy it! ....... a fake Plus you'd have to change the front wheel for a drum brake to be eligable to enter ACU events and that would require a fair bit of "engineering" work. Amases me how many people think TY250's are all Majestys, cant be just because Majestys are worth more than double a std TY 250 surely ?, and how many Trail bikes are sold as Trials bikes Edited October 12, 2010 by Old trials fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Whats worse to me than the trail bike thing is when you meet people who say "Oh,you do motocross" when you say you do trials.No matter how many times I rant on about it friends still ask if I'm "racing" this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedco Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Just to add the, is it or isn't it question Yam Ty175 kato on fleabay at moment - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmike1961 Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I saw the "kato" too. What's so special about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedco Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I may be corrected here,the Ty kato bikes were,developed in Japan, and were extensively modified. These alterations helped in the building of the Ty mono. The bike have a slim profile with altered frames, tank, seat, exhaust, leading link fork. 250 engines are yamaha ow factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I may be corrected here,the Ty kato bikes were,developed in Japan, and were extensively modified. These alterations helped in the building of the Ty mono. The bike have a slim profile with altered frames, tank, seat, exhaust, leading link fork. 250 engines are yamaha ow factory. I keep looking but i cant find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hewson Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-TRIALS-BIKE-TWINSHOCK-BELIEVED-KATO-/120633245570?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1c164d3f82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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