Brill. thanks for that, Just ordered a side stand as I remember they felt like it was going to fall back and the stand to give way!!

Thanks for all the help and Advice. when I've got it and put all the bling on I will get some pics up!!

Still Shopping ha ha.. ok, what do you guys think of the S3 4RT Titanium front pipe?

Is is a good upgrade on the standard?

does it sound noisier?

Does it produce more power?

I know they look cleaner and don't corrode etc

Which manufacturer is a better fit?

Edited February 15, 201511 yr by helicoptermanr22

Titanium front pipes look better and weigh less.

If the diameter is larger than standard, the noise and power may increase or change a (tiny) bit.

Ok, would you recommend running in first with original pipe and then changing over?

Would it alter the fuel/Air mapping?

which manufacturer is preferred as there are 3-4 to choose from and TBH I have no idea

This is from Jim Sandifords

Edited February 15, 201511 yr by helicoptermanr22

this is a Another S3 Version!!!

Edited February 15, 201511 yr by helicoptermanr22

this is a S3 Banyeres version which does look good but would need a heat shield attachment really

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and another

Pictures 3 and 4 don't look like they will fit a 4RT.

As long as you stay close to the original diameter I wouldn't worry about air/fuel mapping. The same goes for running in.

Be careful when ordering at Banyeres, the descriptions aren't always clear.

Also there are different diameters for sale wich means the original seal in the end pipe won't fit.

Your first picture seems to have a larger diameter but has a welded reduction at the end, wich probably will fit.

I've ordered this one wich has the original 25mm diameter: http://www.jbanyeres.com/en/escape/373-a.html

Edited February 15, 201511 yr by guys

Dear me, the Banyeres site is a very dark place indeed, strange things often happen soon after, an overwhelming feeling of guilt and "how am I going to pay the mortgage this month" and such like.

Dear me, the Banyeres site is a very dark place indeed, strange things often happen soon after, an overwhelming feeling of guilt and "how am I going to pay the mortgage this month" and such like.

I thought it only happened to me.

I have pipe 1 on mine and noise was the same as I have the big outlet on the muffler. They are super light compared to standard pipe on the standard 4RT.

The stock stand was to long and the bike can walk off the stand when left idling on a smooth surface. I cut 12mm out of it and rewelded much better lean angle.

Be careful when doing up the plate its only ally and will deform if overtightened. Take it up to the torque spec a bit at a time and keep an eye on it bending. They all seem to have an ally plate so be careful on all brands.

Mags

Dear me, the Banyeres site is a very dark place indeed, strange things often happen soon after, an overwhelming feeling of guilt and "how am I going to pay the mortgage this month" and such like.

Ha Ha. yes as Ive just found out!! thank you for helping me empty my pockets!!

Picked up me new beast on Friday as really pleased.. had a sneaky little play on the way home for Cornwall>>

Love It. And went a bit mad getting some bolt on goodies.some of which haven't arrived yet.

Edited February 21, 201511 yr by helicoptermanr22

Some goodies bolted up. JT7 Carbon Fork covers. S3 brake n clutch bling.( Carbon silencer and header pipe cover .Also ally waterpump protector cover from Banyeres not arrived yet). CSP casing protector. Mitani Ally stand (still to go on) Carbon Frame guards. silicon pipes n stuff...

Edited February 21, 201511 yr by helicoptermanr22

When I was picking up, this just came out of the workshops....