A lot of the development work had been done by Jack Anelay in Lancashire, as can be seen on the bike entered by Jack in the 1962 SSDT, ridden by Tommy Ollerton.

 

It makes you wonder with hindsight did the British firms have their heads in the sand in 62/3 /4 when others were considering lighter 2 strokes as a the way forward?

Hi Guy's ,

 

Nigel it was called being British and knowing better than the Minion's that you employed!

 

Wrong on all counts has we youngsters said at the time.

 

 Wake up man can't you see that the Japanese know more about copying British bikes and making them better?

 

 Then the Spanish did the same to the trials bike industry.

 

We are British and we will never learn Yha .

 

Charlie.

im not so sure thats true now, but i wasnt aware that back in 62 peeps like Anelay had the exact blueprint for Sammy. Youd like to think that the comp dept would have at least tried out the idea? FFS we had bantams then at least it wouldnt have been a big leap, but hindsight i suppose.

Is registration 669 NHO 1962 or earlier because I believe 1963 was the first year of numbers issued with a year letter so A = 1963 and so on. 

If 669 NHO is a Model 4 Bultaco were they the first trials bike Bultaco produced or was the Model 10 the first, also the round shaped fuel tank was that fitted to the early models then changed to the squarer design?

Thank you Deryk, was Model 4 or 10 then the first Sherpa trials bike sold?

Hi Guy's.

 

I think I am right to say that when it came down to frame dimensions and angles  Mr SH Miller did is own thing .

 

And I also think that he got the hacksaw out to the Sherpa N to make it steer and feel just like the Ariel GOV 132.

 

The steering head angle was unique to him, has were the yokes  he had cast for GOV after cutting up the Ariel/BSA yokes and then re braising them to get them to what he wanted. to make patterns.

 

Yes I have owned a Bulto for a while, but when I had finished rebuilding it, I took one ride around the yard , and said get it sold, I could not ride that, It just felt all wrong to me and to long in the steering.

 

Each to there own.

 

Regards Charlie.

 

Thank you Deryk, was Model 4 or 10 then the first Sherpa trials bike sold?

The model 4 was originally the Sherpa n trail bike first 155cc then a handful of 200cc were built , they were not a proper 1 day trials bike more of a gentle green laner . however both Tom ollerton and Dan shorey modified their bikes to be more suitable as a proper trials bike . The model 4 designation was continued but used for the first (200cc) and second(250cc) series matador enduro type machines ,even though the matador mk2 was called a model 16 the serial nos always started with a 4 .The model 10 Sherpa T was the first true bultaco trials bike with serial nos starting with 10 .

Hi Guy's.

 

 Just Started a page on the "Otter" site.

 

About The Dan Shorey Sherpa "N" UBW 677, If you are interested.

 

Regards Charlie.

thanks charlie nice to get back on thread.

so back to this original bike been found..does this mean that a bike displayed in a prominant museum as the actual bike and displaying the registration number was not and is not and was infact a fake/replica?

Always remember there was probably more than one 669 NHO

so back to this original bike been found..does this mean that a bike displayed in a prominant museum as the actual bike and displaying the registration number was not and is not and was infact a fake/replica?

 

I think it has been fairly well known for many years, well at least to me that the bike in the prominent museum  was not the original. If you asked anything about it you would not get a straight answer.

 

Stuart

So when is someone going to discover EOR 2K

Was EOR 2 K the prototype 325 Woody?

Yes Sam's own development 325 before they went into production, which he probably used to prove most of his own aftermarket parts...  He also used a Mikuni on it.