On 06/07/2018 at 1:27 PM, oni nou said:

"when they ban ice?" If you mean When are they banning the ICE?........Why are you asking me?; you are the one who knows.....You said that it will be around 10 years time. 

I said they wont ban ice. Its impossible to "ban" ice. You can make rules and regulations to stop further sales, my van is euro 6, but you cant ban whats there

 

On 09/07/2018 at 4:14 PM, oni nou said:

 

As you like ......... regulate against it, what? make it illegal to use it in certain places   ........put an end to it ......stop it by what ever method they who are they? legally are able to.

Perhaps governments  may 'officially or legally prohibit' the use of leisure vehicles off-road that use an ICE as a method of movement and so make it undesirable for manufacturers to fit the ICE in their motorcycles that are produced specifically for off-road use. and it is this that I am referring to....a discussion about semantics will be a waste of time ......what I am talking about of course is the change from  the production; sale and use of a polluting type of vehicle to a less polluting type of vehicle that has been brought about by governments stopping the use of the more polluting vehicle by using whatever powers that they have at their disposal in order to make that a reality.

 

You clearly have no way to construct any simple arguments to back up a single statement you've made, frustratingly.

regulate against it, against what ?? how?? End to it, What? they legally, who are they?

Legally prohibit? How/who would police it when you cant even get a copper to come out to a burglary or vehicle theft currently?

 

By governments, its our government you plonker. The thing is I can see a place for electric and it may very well be coming but not for many many years if ever. It doesnt in the slightest interest me or the massive majority of off roaders, either here or where ive ridden in spain and France. OUR government couldnt ban ice cos there are far too many of them around, billions in gdp dependent on them, and even with gradual regulation and restrictions there would always be exceptions and concessions just as classic vehicle have NOW.

To think that electric bikes will ever take over trials completly well you might be right in 100 years but I even doubt that.

 

On 09/07/2018 at 4:31 PM, oni nou said:

You missed my point........,anyway  I take it by what you say that in your mind there is a clear division between lots of things that pollute in an urban environment and a small amount of things polluting in the countryside to the point that pollution in the countryside does not really matter because there is not that much of it....is that the point you are making.

Its unlikely that you will see trials bikes in a city as they are specialist machines mainly used in the countryside for their intended purpose. I understand you......................... . I am thinking of this  on a global scale whereas you are thinking  about this on a your world scale.

Like you said about the GasGas TXE  at 12,500.00 Euros...."has any one in this country bought one ?" ........ there are other places in the world and if the UK sank into the sea without trace the rest of the world would still be buying and riding trials bikes even if they only had electric motors fitted.and were expensive and had a low range to them.........presuming that the UK does not sink without trace and people do buy trials bikes with electric motors with a short range that would obviously mean the end of the long distance trials events but would probably evolve to become events like a SSDT short loop event or whatever.....

There is absolutely no difference in polluting vehicles (although even recently it was diesels that were best now its petrol) but as the gaurdian article indicates, its not a few trials bikes in any enviroment which causes asthma in london, and its here that concerns us surely.

Global or world is there a difference? Yes everything has an effect on the Ozone, unless you're trump of course, but whats a thousand trials bikes equal to? 1 jumbo taking off at heathrow? Oh right in your world (or globe) they will be electric in "a few years"