August 16, 200620 yr It's actually me on a works replica TL-250 I amflying the bike to China and they will be putting disk brakes and mnonoshock on it... Look Out Raga, I'll be an obstacle in your section, ... or traction?
August 16, 200620 yr It makes sense KTM breaking into mainstream trials. They already dominate in Enduro/MX so looking for other markets to exploit is a natural progression. It must be a worry though for the current importers I would think. Theres no room as it is for another machine and KTM are formidable competition. Atom, Waddaya mean by "dominate"? I know they have the widest selection of specialized models, they aren't ashamed to ask the highest retail prices for said models, and the people who buy them would "never buy one of them Jap bikes", but where do you get "dominate"? Ya been hangin' around Ringo and drinkin' his orange Kool-aid?
August 16, 200620 yr I think the question should be whos going to still be making trials bikes and who will be buying them............
August 17, 200620 yr It makes sense KTM breaking into mainstream trials. They already dominate in Enduro/MX so looking for other markets to exploit is a natural progression. It must be a worry though for the current importers I would think. Theres no room as it is for another machine and KTM are formidable competition. Atom, Waddaya mean by "dominate"? I know they have the widest selection of specialized models, they aren't ashamed to ask the highest retail prices for said models, and the people who buy them would "never buy one of them Jap bikes", but where do you get "dominate"? Ya been hangin' around Ringo and drinkin' his orange Kool-aid? KTM's current push is into the tourer/ sports tourer market (e.g. the big v-twin enduro bike) because that's where the numbers are. This is from a friend who used to be a KTM agent. Developing a trials bike would be completely counter this philosophy.
August 17, 200620 yr It makes sense KTM breaking into mainstream trials. They already dominate in Enduro/MX so looking for other markets to exploit is a natural progression. It must be a worry though for the current importers I would think. Theres no room as it is for another machine and KTM are formidable competition. Atom, Waddaya mean by "dominate"? I know they have the widest selection of specialized models, they aren't ashamed to ask the highest retail prices for said models, and the people who buy them would "never buy one of them Jap bikes", but where do you get "dominate"? Ya been hangin' around Ringo and drinkin' his orange Kool-aid? Im only going by the facts matey Take a look at the article here - Worldwide sales of $531 Million and a this year to date net income of 11.6 million euros - I'll have some of that
August 18, 200620 yr It makes sense KTM breaking into mainstream trials. They already dominate in Enduro/MX so looking for other markets to exploit is a natural progression. It must be a worry though for the current importers I would think. Theres no room as it is for another machine and KTM are formidable competition. Atom, Waddaya mean by "dominate"? I know they have the widest selection of specialized models, they aren't ashamed to ask the highest retail prices for said models, and the people who buy them would "never buy one of them Jap bikes", but where do you get "dominate"? Ya been hangin' around Ringo and drinkin' his orange Kool-aid? Im only going by the facts matey Take a look at the article here - Worldwide sales of $531 Million and a this year to date net income of 11.6 million euros - I'll have some of that Facts? ...as presented to us by KTM, on a website for a KTM dealer. It reads more like a quarterly stock report. You did say "dominate enduro/mx" so I thought you meant something like performance, reliability and race results. Sorry. Hey, they're good bikes, ride 'em if you like 'em, but "dominate"? The KTM/Husaberg/Hunkavarnish/TM "exotic" european cult followings are always entertaining to me.
August 18, 200620 yr ....It reads more like a quarterly stock report... Yup and those sales figures dont lie. someone is buying the machines and to get growth at that rate is unheard of in this industry I would suggest. They are obviously doing something right for their customers
August 18, 200620 yr for the sake of the well known silsden family I hope it isnt Joel Corroy or that Striet fella... JCM just about finished my fathers business, then both Tony Scarlett and Bob Gollner had a go with them and didnt get very far either.... i wont pretend I'm not bitter but you cant even say third time lucky ! still, as ever, it would be nice to be wrong !
August 18, 200620 yr Atom, Clarification: Over here in the US, KTMs have what has been called a "cult following". Most KTM riders are so loyal to the brand, they are willing to ride inferior bikes and put up with astronomical parts pricing and gross un-availability of said parts, to prove their point... that point seeming to be "I paid waaaaaay more than you did so my bike is waaaaay better". Years ago I went with the advice I got from a guy so high up the food chain at KTM America that I cannot even mention his name or he would find me and poke my eyes out with a sharpened stainless spoke. "Just buy a **** and be done with it. No reason for you to put yourself at an unnecessary disadvantage. I'm still waitin' for parts for my new bike and I work here." I had learned my lesson about brand loyalty a few years before that. Never again, and when HE, of all people, steered me away, I was gone daddy gone. Forgive me if I chime in when I see any inkling of blind/brand loyalty. I just can't help myself. Not sayin' it's what you are all about Atom. It is such a mistake in the long run, I hate to see it happen to anyone. (well, except Ringo) Always ride the best bike you can, it doesn't matter what color it is. Peace.
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