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What a bunch of crap that video is! No-Stop failed years ago and will fail again.
My wife really has no interest in the sport and just puts up with my silly obsession, but those are the people that going to No Stop is supposed to get interested in the sport. She watched the section with Albert Cabestany doing the rear wheel hops. She said that there is such a minute difference between the stopped and the no stop that it will be difficult to decide. So for the average Joe that decides "hey let's check out this trials thing I have heard about" they go to a world round to see the BEST of the world and the rider has a flawless, awesome looking ride and gets a 5 because of a "hesitation" (translation "stop"). Average Joe will be wondering "what happened, why did the rider get a 5? It looked awesome to me" They will be confused all day.
Also, all this talk about designing sections to suit No Stop riding that's all fine and dandy, but am I the only one watching this video that thought "those obstacles look like something I could ride or at least attempt, I thought these were the best riders in the world? Shouldn't they be able to ride stuff that looks impossible?" Sure the FIM may be trying to make the average rider in other motorcycle sports interested in trials and "easier" sections make the spectator believe they could do that. But in the USA anyways it may have the opposite effect. Look at the popularity of FMX the spectators know they can't ride like that but they love to watch it and then go ride their MotoX bikes really fast and dream that they are flying through the air like the FMX guys.
But of course this is all just my opinion, and I know we all will not agree. Also the FIM governs, makes rules for World Events but I just don't see how this No-Stop nonsense would help the Club level and National level events. Might as well go ride Enduro and EnduroCross on the "big" bikes and get some respect for "riding the tough stuff". Notice there are no longer trials bikes allowed to compete withe the "big" bikes in EnduroCross in the USA, they got booted to their own class.
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If you do set fire to it. Take video of it so that we all may enjoy the experience with you. That is what this forum is for, to share the trials experience with all of us!
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in addition to previous post.
Be sure to grease/lube the suspension linkage bearings (including shock top/bottom) at a minimum once a year. keep an eye on the fork seals, can never lube the chain too much
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I started riding as a youngen back in the late 70's on Yamaha TYs (80 and 175). Basic idea was first gear and never touch the clutch. But the idle could also be set to fire once every 30 mins or so.
Then I was out for a few years after graduation etc.... Then I get back into it about 8-10 yrs ago and the bikes are AWESOME. Hydraulic clutch so smooth to use, engines rev to the moon, brakes that actually work, and real suspension. Balance, stop and hop are just parts of progression of the sport.
I know nobody cares about how I ride but here goes. I try to be smooth when I ride, this does not mean riding no stop. Some turns I will try to "ride through" smooth like the old days, if I am unable then I will try to hop the rear or the front. Sometimes I will stop, balance and collect myself before attempting what is a "large" obstacle or hill climb for me. Point to all this is I try to incorporate both styles in my riding. Both sets of skills have a place in Trials, and usually it is in the same section.
I don't want a heavier bike, a twin shock bike or a bike with a seat. I have no problem if the manufacturers decide to produce them again as another option, but please don't stop making the Trials specific machines that we now have, that would be a step backwards.
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Really enjoyed watching this earlier today. Thanks!
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First off, I HATE wiring. And I will assume you now do as well.
Looking at the pic, the yellow wire in the middle of your left palm, going from big white connector at the bottom of the pic to the little black connector in your palm looks like it may be broken/frayed at the little black connector in your palm. May want to look at that and decide if that needs a better connection.
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You are partially accurate Copey.............. we don't have much snow here right now.
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Yep, some of the older riders may have to ride "down a class" and no longer be labeled "Expert". The sport has progressed and evolved past their current abilities. Hopefully I live and can ride long enough for that to happen to me.
It is a bit of a hit to the ego, but it happens to all of us.
I ride Advanced but there are gentlemen in the MOTA Senior class that I would be unable to beat riding the same Senior line as them. They are just so damn good and smooth after so many years riding. But they would not be able to beat me riding Advanced lines because it is a different set of skills. Why should we limit everyone to using only one set of skills for the sport?
"Lower" class sections typically can be ridden No stop. "higher" class sections Usually lend themselves to Stop and Hop.
Stop and balance = 0
Stop with foot down = 5
Make all riders understand the observer has final say = DO NOT argue with the observer.
Make all observers understand the need for consistency = NO special stop counts for certain riders, all riders get same 1 sec or 20 second count. Just be consistent and then all the riders are scored the same for that section. preferably entire event.
Problem solved
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Ya gotta watch out for those ninja dogs. very sneaky they are
I have the All Balls bearing kit, it has the seals separate from the bearings..........It came with the bike when I bought it. So not really out any extra $$
How does your wife like the static shock that builds up from scootin' across the carpet. Does the kiss go a little like this. Scoot Scoot "Hey Honey, Love you" smooch ZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPPP! followed by a loving slap to your face?
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I just recently purchased the 10 yr old brother to the 2013 300 pro. (fancy way of saying I bought a 2003 300 pro) I was riding a 2000 Sherco 2.9 (272cc) and the difference between bikes is HUGE. Part of it is different manufacturers but the bottom end of the 300 is much more torquey. I like to ride with more of a put put and rev when I need it type of style. The Sherco had some of that but for an example of the difference, I rode a rainy muddy event with the 300, and in a section was a shortish hill. I did not build enough momentum at the bottom to carry me all the way up. In the middle of the hill I needed more go and I just cracked the throttle a little bit and the 300 just chugged up the rest of the way. If I would have been on my Sherco the rear wheel would have just spun.
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OH Crap my parents are aware of the Logistics of the baby!!!!
That's probably why I am here..................................
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I have been in the garage off and on for the past few days. I have looked longingly at my Gas Gas many times while out there. But alas I have not been able to pump her clutch lever or install the rear suspension bearings that I tore her apart to do. So as she is sitting with swingarm removed and in many pieces I have done the unthinkable and cheated on the Old B.A.G.G.........
I have been chasing spark on a 1985 Yamaha Phazer snowmobile, I am happy to report that I have found it!!
Now I am having a celebratory
(just wanted to brag a little bit, because I HATE chasing spark and I just had to brag to somebody that I found it)
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Judging from your excitement, I would say that it will be considered a worthwhile trip.............points on license included.
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He never let go of the bars though!!!
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I interpret this to be Stop and Balance is OK = clean Stop with foot down is not ok = 5. Sounds like the stop with penalty rule. I like that because you can still use modern techniques but you have to actually be in control of the bike when using these techniques. I really think this rule is a good bridge between stop and foot down for 5 minutes and only get a one and the no stop idea.
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I could record a graphic and detailed "instructional" video of me squeezing my Gas Gas' clutch lever. To help you get through this tough time until you can be re-united with your Gas Gas
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That pesky technology computer program thingys are the tough ones to figure out.
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Just keep in mind to HEAL UP first. Broken back is not something you want to push too soon and cause more damage. OK public service announcement out of the way. on to bike selection.
Generally from a price point of view modern 4T trials bikes will cost more to purchase than a 2T. Probably because there are so few of them in comparison to 2T. Personally I would go with 250cc or larger. If your plan is to use the bike to get back into shape and have some fun, and maybe a few competitions, any of the modern bikes after 2000 should serve you well. I rode a 2000 Sherco 2.9 (272cc) for the past 7 years at Club level events in the Advanced class and it had served me well. As you probably already know, buy based on condition not solely on year. If possible ride as many bikes as you can, they all do "feel" differently. Some drastically so.
Welcome to Trials and heal up and ride!
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If you are already planning on a strip down, powder coat and rebuild after it fires up, you may be farther ahead just biting the bullet and tearing her down now and starting from scratch.
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Gawd knows what else = a day of riding with Team WGASA
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Yep definitely, that way I know there is enough grease in there. takes only a few minutes and saves hours of hassle.
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in that video the first mistake, picking bike up, second mistake looking around for something to pull when the rear brake lever is readily available and the bike was in gear. push down on rear brake and engine stalls.
I would first try to put the rear brake on if bike is in gear, then stuff the exhaust if that did not work.
OR
if you desire a new bike, just let it go into catastrophic failure. sell it dirt cheap as a parts bike and then buy a brand new fancy pretty bike!!!! (oh this usually only works for the single guys out there. Us married blokes scramble to save that 15 yr old bike, because we know if it dies we have nothing to ride for the next 3 yrs)
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Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Guess I will find out if the armor all has any adverse effects....................... If I remember I may post results either when it fails or yrs down the road when all is good.
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it is not specifically the silicone that will eat the rim but rather the chemicals mixed with the silicone to cure it that will eat the rim???
but basically silicone sealent/caulk etc..=bad. (This was referenced in the above video)
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Like Ham2 says keep the questions coming, we were all newbies once.
Copemech does a great job of answering Sherco questions, seems to really know his stuff. Generally he is very nice and polite to the new guys, wait until he gets to know you
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