cabby Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Just reading there about the 290 sherco and a few stating it's not for a beginner, which makes me wonder, how do you define a beginner ? I've only been trial riding since April last year, done every trial near me since, I am still a beginner IMO, but a few of my mates have since started up, like just a couple weeks etc, I am, at this stage, miles better than them, but they are beginners, so how does one define a beginner ?? A month ? 6 months ? A year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee harris Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Ride a trial in the clubman route. If you are last by a long way, you are still a beginner. All relative...in germany I ride twinshock expert or specialist depending form. In Belgien or France, i ride the clubman route..in exmoor I ride the gentleman route as opposed to the star route. Decide for yourself. A 200 is good enough for miost riders for 3 years and a 290 is def too much in the first 6-12 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's just a term applied to riders new to the sport, a begginer is certainly someone in their first season, however someone can be a novice indefinatley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 A beginner in trials terms is a measure of ability more than a measure of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbastard Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 You are also doing the A route so that might change peoples thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabby Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) You are also doing the A route so that might change peoples thoughts. I was more wondering what the general definition is rather than speaking about us, and our A is more a novice route compared to SACU events I believe. Edited January 3, 2011 by Thedbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty_jon Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 A beginner in trials terms is a measure of ability more than a measure of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockyrider Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I am the definition of a beginner. Having rode one event in the hottest part of summer, after 3 sections (out of 32) I was down right pooped. I will stick to observing and checking until I improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Sounds as though you have graduated to "Novice"! Good! So you want a 2.9 Sherco? Go for it! They are not terribly aggresive in the later years, yet may require a bit of respect for sloppy control. Either you can ride it or it will ride you. You must decide whom is in charge. If you tire and let the bike ride you round, then you will suffer with it. If you use common sense, and learn how to ride it, you will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I am the definition of a beginner. Having rode one event in the hottest part of summer, after 3 sections (out of 32) I was down right pooped. I will stick to observing and checking until I improve. Just ride the easy line, dab all you need and have some fun trying. At the end of the day, the personal reward is better than the pay! Big thing, relax ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjbiker Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 It's just a term applied to riders new to the sport, a begginer is certainly someone in their first season, however someone can be a novice indefinatley. That's me that is GJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ride a trial in the clubman route. If you are last by a long way, you are still a beginner. All relative...in germany I ride twinshock expert or specialist depending form. In Belgien or France, i ride the clubman route..in exmoor I ride the gentleman route as opposed to the star route. Decide for yourself. You have summed it up quite well Lee. Depending where and what trial it is depends what grade you are,i think only in trials you can be a beg one day,a novice one day and the next day you can be expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Interesting ; Most centres have a rider grading system which basically should move you up a class when you start winning or thereabouts in you current class. However we have no national grading system and most centres have similar but different systems ( the usual problem of finding a volunteer to do it arises). I have a mate who has been a novice in our cntr. (which is not known for it's riders abilities) for 40 years, he has ridden just about every trial there is to ride in the UK and plenty abroad, but he's still officially a novice. so the distinction between beginner,novice, clubman expert etc. are just relative to ones own "bubble"/ area of activity. As we are not a big earner ( perhaps that an unfair jibe) for the ACU and the logistics of implementing any national even rational scheme seem remote. The bottom line is that it's up to your own conscience when you start winning pots as to how you "play" the game. Most folk soon recognize the big fish in a little pond and it is very easy to be a little fish in a big pond if you follow my meaning. Take your pick as to how you want to be "known" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee harris Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) I started riding the german TS championship over here in 2003. I started as a novice as I had ridden, albeit 20 years previously. A then new found mate then laid down his rules (He was a novice riding his first year also). The rules he fixed were: "Land on the steps", so first, second or third, then move up next year. I liked that idea and still do! (WE HAVE LITTLE CUPS OVER HERE TO CARRY ON EXPLOITING THE UNDERPAID CHINEASE GIRLES) I got a second and third place out of the 8 rounds I rode, so went to clubman the next year. In 2004 I got a first, 2nd and 3rd as a clubbie so moved up to specialist. In 2005 I got nowt so stayed specialist. In 2006 the same. In 2007 I got one (maybe lucky??) third, so went to experts in 2008. I am usually last..... If the routes are daunting, I ride specialist...and come close to last even then. I did ride a few rounds over the eurocup in the clubman route (Holland and Belgian also) and came 2nd and 3rd so I kind of feel OK where I am....in germany. Rode a three day classic trial in france and entered as clubman cos I thought, well...3 days... ....it wer reet ard..... and I struggled. It just shows the "level" in germany. If I ride the gentlemann route in exmoor I can do ok. Was in third up til the end of day two in 2008 and then finished 7th...bugger All in all, you have to choose for yourself. I have no time to practice and therefore I dont really get any better. BUT.... I not want to ride clubman route in germany at least.... Why do I write this? Well a pet hate of mine is the silvery cups they handout over here. Usually there are between 70 and 100 starters at any D-cup round and most ride novice, beginner or clubman, just to scoop the ironwear... I think you should start in a group to push yourself without overdoing it. One guy just went down to beginner and wins it regularly...but he is 78 so is that ok? Edited January 4, 2011 by Lee Harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Alternatively, only give out awards to the Youth riders riding in the correct age/class and then you know that they are getting the right awards. We give out adult and Youth trophies for the top three on each route every season and it's always dissapointing how many riders fail to collect their trophies at the awards ceremony. I don't mind not giving out the trophies if people let me know they can't make it, but more often than not they just don't bother to turn up and I'm left standing like a muppet calling out their names to a round of applause only to find they're not present. We usually have an entry of around 50 to 60 but although nwe see the same faces year after year, very few do every round which makes a championship a little pointless. I will be giving out awards in 2011 but it may well be the last year that we do it, I might as well simply drop the entry fee by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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