Get help you sick bugger

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That's genius I never use LOL unless I actually laugh out loud.

A voice of reason from within so much ****

Love it

Not only did Lane not figure out if sick bugger was positive or negative was even funnier. He must be daft.

Lane you sound so...

soo politically correct all the time while representing the whole issue. Pick a side and stick with it man. Everyone else has.

Get help you sick bugger

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That's genius I never use LOL unless I actually laugh out loud.

A voice of reason from within so much ****

Love it

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I've said it many times before but it never gets old.

"Ishy, you are the man!!!!"

BTW, did I ever tell you guys how I helped bring the Lakers back to championship form. How about when I helped Lance Armstrong win the Tour de France. Oh yeah, I was also able to inspire Tiger Woods to new heights in the golf world. Don't forget how I was able to convince President Bush to pull the trigger on Iraq.

You see, living in Southern California I'm able to rub elbows with the biggest celebrities and ya'll know what kind of pull that has.

Call me for tickets to Arnold's next big movie premier. I'll have plenty for everyone.

95% of the riders in the U.S. don't really care if the U.S. ever competes on a world level

We can't all go the route Geoff Aaron picks. I'll be the 5% bracket thank you very much.

Craig, I think 95% of us riders are in that 5% bracket!????

95% of the riders in the U.S. don't really care if the U.S. ever competes on a world level

We can't all go the route Geoff Aaron picks. I'll be the 5% bracket thank you very much.

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Two responces.

I stand corrected. It's .5%

Ridge, looking back on the post I sound disrespectful, sorry about that.

I'm looking at the World Round American rider as if I were watching the Olympics or a Football game. Do I care? Just from a underdog, root for my team angle.

What's MORE important to me? Club Trials.

No sweat Brian. I knew what you were trying to say, and I'm with you. My focus is on the foundation of the sport here...the clubs. I truly wish that folks did care more about was going on in both the Nat'l and the world trials scene, but I've discovered as I go to the meets and talk to the guys in the trenches that isn't the case. The lack of total sport enthusiasm is what's missing. My 19 year old son loves to ride, but hasn't got a clue what's happening on either the Nat'l or World scene. What's worse, he doesn't care, and that scares me for the future of the sport. If we can't get those 19 year old excited who's going to run the clubs and keep the sport alive when us old guys can't start those bikes any more?

I love to watch the world guys, but what they do, and what's happening on the world scene is far removed from what we do as clubs and club riders. It's like they are two different sports, and I guess in reality they are.

What's MORE important to me? Club Trials.

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What's MORE important to me?

Gee Wiz, I have to be politically correct, I don't want to be banned again!

Simply, when you have a losing or JV team, few people are really interested until you break into the finals for the big leagues. Who follows a losing baseball, football or raceteam? Not many!

When USA trials had riders scoring in and winning world rounds the general motorcycle population was much more interested in the sport. Today nobody follows US trials much, no global impact with our riders so there is not much to write about in the papers or magazines. No home team to cheer for!

Ask yourself this, do 95% of American trials riders NOT care that Bernie won the world title? Would they not care if another American had a shot of winning the US world round this year? I believe they would and would be pulling for the American more than one of the European or Japanese riders.

It would give the press more to cover, bring in more spectators and create more of a buz for the sport of trials, having US contenders. Today we have a group of riders who will not even start the USGP, much less have a shot at winning it.

Maybe that's why the clubs are showing signs of folding up? Lack of publicity for the sport at the top levels of the game. People like winners! Think about how much good publicity trials would have had if Geoff Aaron had won the Eudurocross instead of crashing out?

Good Lord!!

There used to be a way to lock a topic so that babbling idiots could take their nonsense to another forum.

Take a second to go to my original post wherein I indicated that this same bull has been debated over and over again.

Definition of a fool: Someone who talks about the same thing and does the same thing expecting a different result.

Ringo, that's also the definition of insanity. Besides this is also about having the longest tred in the history of trialscentral, just to prove we do have an interest in this topic " US world round contenders". Some of us believe, some of us don't that Americans can win again.

It's difficult to convince anyone one way or another on anything, what they believe they believe! You have to admit we covered some great material here, Some really great comments have been submitted. That alone was worth the effort.

In the end, Those who can win, will! Those who cannot won't or they will simply invent a class for themselves at the next NATC meeting. We see that our US sport is one of the few in the world where a bunch of middle aged men think they ride well. Get factory sponsorship and consume most of the US rider support.

That was the point in your first post, sponsorship! In the USA most of the sponsorship funds are used up by middle aged men in their age group national championships. So there is not much left for the youngsters wanting to be the next Bernie. These kids soon get discouraged and drop out of the sport, while the old guys simply come back year after year hunting for their next old guy national title.

Go to my first post and you understand everything I believe about winning. In Trials, in life in eternity! I agree with you about money, go to a Supercross and it shows you in an instant why Moto Cross is king in the USA. Go to a national trial and you will fall asleep watching or hanging around the pits.

Nobody would come to supercross if they had age groups for the riders! People go to see the best, they come to race to compete against the best. The public responds to the atmosphere, the youngsters and their parents buy bikes and go racing to be part of it and maybe the next famous and rich factory star.

Trials did offer that at one time in the USA, Not today. Ridgerunner said it best, the NATC has built an Oldsmoble.

Edited January 16, 200620 yr by Mich Lin

Besides this is also about having the longest tred in the history of trialscentral,

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The only reason this "tred" is long is due to the fact that you've made 48 responses that are filled with endless pages of repeated horse ****. There are only a handfull of others that have more than one reply.

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Edited January 15, 200620 yr by ringo

Again Ringo, your the best! You started a really good topic and it has brought out most of the issues on the subject of American's breaking back into world trials.

Interesting conversation needs appossing views. Without people like you, Ishy and Ridgerunner there would be no differnt perspectives on things. Thanks guys but especally to you Ringo!

Hope you feel better soon! Have you started rehab yet for that knee?