bongo177

Hiya mate, yeah that's right i raced superstock 600 in 2011 and then sold that because i couldn't ride it for toffee, and bought the blade above and raced stock thou last year with a bit more success lol. I know Tim aye! No doubt know you too, what's your surname mate?? We on Facebook???!

I picked this up today

I don't mean to be pedantic if it's purely a choice of words, but its a 4 stroke, so not strictly gearbox oil as it's a sumped and pumped motor. Just want to make sure you're sticking in the right oil and not gearbox oil! I can't anwer your question though as mine's a 2008 which is 900cc.

Sound mate ill probably go up for the day anyway lol, loving it at the moment!

Nah i knew it was on but rode the course yesterday and knew how much there was to ride anyway. In reality, the only places we couldn't ride, we didn't want to ride anyway! They just used trails and paths. We were let free pretty much everywhere anyway as long as we didn't get mowed down! Cracking day! Gimme a shout when you're riding mate, I'm only in Old Skem myself lol.

So if you don't use the hot start regularly and it's always shut, it will stick open?!

Eh up, anyone heading up there tomorrow? Say ow do if you are, i'm in a white VW Transporter T5 on a 08 Beta Rev 4T. Dunno if anyone will be but worth an ask! bongo

I can't find neutral with my foot on my 4t, no biggy though, just left hand it and it's fine. I had trouble kicking mine over and read something stupidly simple that just struck a chord with me. On a 4t you don't kick it over like a 2t, you push through it with a steady and constant push. Push it over rather than kicking it over! Sounds daft, but just aslight alteration with my technique and it's bang on everytime now. If not, maybe a fuelling problem/plug problem?? I never have to use my hot start. Was out today and it was a scorcher, and never used choke, hotstart, or throttle all day on starts.

Outside diameter on mine is bang on 17mm mate

Too right yeah, I didn't know not had been sat for a long period! Billy have you heard of slipping clutches when using fully synth? I'm new to trials but rroad race for years and its common knowledge that slipping clutches are often down to fully synth oil. I've always used semi however I'm on fully onte trials bike as it seems to be common practice in trials.

Hi all, a good friend of mine recalls when my 08 rev4t came out, and the 07 model too, some people here and there talking about modifications they had made tote standard exhaust system to help with things like the responsiveness of the throttle, the power characteristics and torque etc. he's not sure what they did now and I can't find any info. Anybody able to help with things that I could do?

Well yeah I agree that you would expe t it to happen in lower gears and torquier areas of the bikes rev range, but it often is the case that the overall speed of the spinning basket and plates at higher revs combined with the inertia of the wheel against the crank in the clutch tends to make it happen in longer gears. The description of it feeling like you're pulling the clutch in is the perfect and exact description of clutch wear though

That will be your clutch slipping mate. Usually it'll happen in the torquier part of the revs and often within the first second of changing up a gear. Your steels will be fine but get yourself a new set of friction plates for your clutch and job should e a good'n

Jesus this was painful to read. Have we established who knows more yet?! Glad your bikes sorted dude! Kept me entertained on my night shift this thread!

Very interesting timing with your post! My 2008 rev 4t kickstart did the same thing on Saturday at cowm! Exactly the same!! But... We managed to get a gas gas kickstart to fit on with the same spline which worked fine, but was only a borrow for the day. I then put my mates 2012 Evo 4t kickstart on it which is the same spline size and from lampkins on Monday ordered one, for the '12 Evo, as its much bulked up and stronger. It's also marginally shorter but obviously works perfectly. This was around 55 quid give or take a few (bought some other bits too you see) I must have the bigger shaft though if yours won't accept the newer Evo model kickstarts. Try to try a few of other brands though as you may be able to just get a Montesa one for instance for much cheaper than the 200 quoted. When we were looking at the weekend to find one for the day, many of the smaller cc bikes had smaller shafts than mine so could well work for yours. Hope this helps! Bongo

Saving a front end slide with the knee is one in a thousand, it is extremely rare and the only people who have done it will be more than happy tonsay it's just the luck of the draw. I've done it once in 5 years of racing and it was pure luck. On the flip side, I've lost the front probably 15 times and crashed despite my knee ring in position to save me. When your knee is on the ground, you are either fully off the front brake having already takes as trailed into the corner, or you are almost finished, and are at the very end of the trailing I to the corner. You only get good feeling of grip from the front end ice you are off the brakes, as the brakes control the suspensions compression, not allowing the company and rebound to react to the ground to give you a good feeling of contact and grip. This means that losing the front mod corner while on a closed throttle or while at the end of the braking (which is 99% of all front end crashes) are before the apex and happen extremely quickly. What I'm trying to say is that the knee is not for saving front end crashes at all, it just happens to help once every so often!

The knee down is used as a gauge for the rider to know the exact lean angle he's at. I touch my knee and then lift it marginally so it just rides the tarmac every so slightly. It's a constant monitor to your angle that you just use withouth even thinking while racing, as the entire basis of racing is to be at 100%, to be at the limit of adhesion in a bend, and to not step over that limit, yet be on it constantly. The knee down gives you an extra sense to help achieve this. A lot of people stick the knee out and when it touches, think that that is the limit of lean angle, but as you improve you realise you can bring the knee in and lean more, and more and more. You can safely get your elbow down on any sports bike with the chassis's and tyres of the modern age without any problems. I've raced a long time and not done bad. I know a thing or two about riding principles in road racing and explored this in my ead, and on track. As for the leg out. I have tried it a fair bit in 2011. If there was an advantage to be had, i was more than willing to try to find it, but after trying it in different scenarios on different corners, i was unable to find an advantage. I have tried it on a 2010 Yamaha 6 that i raced in 2011 and a 2009 Fireblade that i currently race, and it helped not one bit on either. There are theories that it only really helps on the prototype chassis's of the GP grids due to their stiffness and need for balance on corner entry, where a homologated chassis that you race in production bike series' has enough in built flex for the advantage to be lost within the flex of the chassis. There is a clear advantage in a raceon corner entry, which is as a defensive strategy, to ride wider and create an off putting situation for a rider behind who has to deal with the leg as well as the rider and it can make their line tighter on entry if they are to pass on the brakes. For me, my racing is faster when i am settled and smooth on the entry, with my feet where they should be and my knee's on the tank holding my weight to keep my upperbody relaxed and my centre of gravitiy in the middle of the bike and not down through the forks as the leg out inevitably causes, when the legs off the tank cause the body weight to be supported by the handlebars. A final quote from VR... "Why do you do the leg thing Valentino".... "I'm not certain why i do it, but i know exactly why everyone else does it!" Bongo

I just bought some Hebo Eco's off fleebay as they were a bargain and my first boots. Now they've turned up and i can't get my calves in them! Well i can, JUST about, but not with pants/socks on! I'm not overweight but with cycling/training i've got a decent set of calves on ma, although nothing abnormal, but could anyone recommend boots with room for the larger calf! I'll also be wearing MX pants so i want space. I am looking around and have read maybe Diadora could fit the bill a little better?? Bongo

Thanks mate, i'll look into all that. I already know the kickstart mod and hotstart mods have been done, and as for the suspension, it's tip top. I've bought it off a good mate who is a suspension technicianfor me in road racing and for BSB teams, so it's all good! Can't wait to get it, shame i'm away until Sunday now and then in work until next Thursday!!

Already bought it mate hehe! Thanks though! Nice to hear good things about them!

Thanks for your replies fellas. I am now the owner of a trials bike for the first time in years! (And first with a motor!) Shame i won't pick it up for another 10 days as i'm away riding bmx!

Thanks lads. I hear what you're saying. 0007 i get what you mean, i just don't want a bike that 6 months or a year down the line when i'm getting the hang of things and starting to do some half decent riding, i'll start to wish i had something with a bit of a sharper ride and not quite so soft power, as has been suggested could be the case. Does the bike have a tendancy to be too soft for a decent rider, or is it great through the riding levels from beginner to pretty damn good?

I've been offered a 2008 Rev 4T off a good friend. It's extremely well maintained and very rarely used, and a price of £1650 with a few bits and bobs too. The previous owner was one of his friends and it's had a particularly easy life, so the bike itself is of no concern as i know it's tip top. Would this model be a decent first bike for me? I am not new to trials, but new to trials with an engine, coming from superbike racing and pushbike trials/bmx/mtb (all of which i still do besides pushbike trials). The only bike i've ridden was a day on my friends Beta Rev something or other, a 300cc. The 250 will obviously be flat compared to this or the 2 strokes, so all advice welcome whether i should go for it based on price, condition, and whether it'll be good for me to progress and play. Thanks in advance, the more help the better! I have read they're good bikes from a thread on here, but i'm more after whether it's a good bike with me being brand new also. I am looking at youtube video's, reviews etc as well, it'd be nice to hear from owners and people with experience on here. bongo

Thanks mate. I've not packed in racing by any means. I've raced with Hottrax for a couple of years in 2009/10, along with PDMCC Three Sisters, and a bit of Derby Phoenix in 2010, and then raced Superstock 600 with Thundersport GB in 2011, and Superstock 1000 in 2012 with Thundersport and some BSB Stock 1000. I've had to miss this year du to a second knee reconstruction in November, so the trials bike is gonna be for fun/traning/bike time/fitness/fun/fun/fun! How did Knockhill go today?! One of my best mates Keith Dickie got a couple of 3rds on his sv650 today there lol. We will no doubt know a lot of the same people!!

Thanks mate! I can't wait to get going again!