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An imaginary straight line is a difficult thing to guage unless you are stood perfectly in line with the two markers. Just look at the rows every year at Wimbledon, and there's a real line painted on a tennis court. However, take a look at my interpretation of the line taken and draw your own conclusions.

Thats what I suspected you guys were reffering to. Thanks.I was thinking. Is there any chance the trials master..or clerk of the course did it this way on purpose to make some riders think out of the box? The again...if its a rule that a straight line is suppose to be used why would someone even ask riders to do that? You can never blame the riders for trying to gain an advantage.

Scorpa SY250. Castrol TTS fully synthetic and 80mls to 5 litres of fuel. Works ok for me. I would be nervous about only using 55mls.. that said I've never tried it.

Thanks for that, it looks to me as if they are talking about 7900 Euros, which is going to be

The final climb was marked on the right by two reds, one half way up the bank and one almost at the top. I suspect the climb was fairly tough as the later riders, looking for a better line, only went up to the first red then turned right and came back down the bank. Now in my opinion that's a failure, however on this occasion the riders then rode way over to the right, up through the trees and came backalong the top of the section. Then, very skilfullly, just edged their front wheels back inside the top red and flicked their bikes around and rode out of the section. There are two schools of thought on this, firstly; crossing an imaginary straight line between two reds is classed as a failure, and; if the Clerk of the Course had wanted the riders to go up the climb then he'd have taped it right to the top and not left a gap on the way up, so it's ok. I hope this explains what we are talking about.

I've not ridden either of the 07 bikes you mention, but to help you decide; which one is cheapest and can you get a deal on either? The bikes are so similar that a financial saving might be all it needs to sway you one way or the other.

Me too..... I HOPE!

We were talking about this on the other thread.... I personally think it sets a very bad example and is a trend I wouldn't like to see in the UK. What do other Observers think? I rely on the 'imaginary straight line' rule when setting out a section. Without this, we would not be able to have three routes as boundary tape would need to be used between every marker. The skill is exceptional, I don't blame the riders for doing it, but the officials should have fived the first person who went between those two reds on the climb. This is only my thoughts on it. Once again, thanks Andy for getting this footage.

I'm on your side on this Pete but in reality, you give these guys an inch and they will take a mile. There is simply too much at stake. Its not a club trial after all. I agree but whatever the level of event, the Observer made a rod for his own back by allowing the first rider to get away with it. I'd make a bet that one of the riders asked if it was ok and the observer said yes. An unfair advantage compared with those who stayed within the confines of the section..... I think.

You're obviously right on this occasion but surely we don't need to tape every gap which is big enough to squeeze a tyre through, just to stop riders going out of the section and getting a better line then coming back in?

Personally I think it was taking things way too far. I certainly don't blame the riders. I'd have tried the same stunt myself in that position. The point I was trying to make was that the Clerk of the course clearly intended the two reds to mark the side of a climb.... NOT a gate through which the riders could travel and go off into the woods for a joy ride before rejoining the section at the top.

I used a van for a few years but found that a trailer was far more convenient. I only needed a van on Sundays or occasionally one evening in the week to transport the bike, the rest of the time I was driving it around wishing I had a car. That said, on long journeys it's a bit dodgy to go into a service station or a pub for a meal if your bike is outside on a trailer. It is also nice to have somewhere to get changed after the trial.

Do you have any idea if the engine if the T Ride is the same as the SY250F? I'm really hoping that it rides just like a slightly heavier/taller trials bike. This was how the Gas Gas Pampera felt, it had a trials bike engine and was brilliant for LDT's. Unfortunately, Pampera's were build down to the bargain

I personally think it sets a very bad example and is a trend I wouldn't like to see in the UK. What do other Observers think? I rely on the 'imaginary straight line' rule when setting out a section. Without this, we would not be able to have three routes as boundary tape would need to e used between every marker. The skill is exceptional, I don't blame the riders for doing it, but the officials should have fived the first person who went between those two reds on the climb. This is only my thoughts on it. Once again, thanks Andy for getting this footage. Doesn't Alex Wiggs 125 stand out from the bigger bikes when he revs it!

Having just watched the excellent video footage of section one. I'm quite frankly staggered that the top riders were allowed to get away with that line up the last climb. Surely a pair of reds on a climb shouldn't be passed through in a huge loop so as to cut out the climb? I'd have been unpopular as the observer, but you can stretch an imaginary straight line a little... but not back down the hill round some trees, up a footpath and back along the skyline- that would have been a five and no questions asked. Or am I being unfair here?

If you've ever seen that Top Gear programme the BBC do (which is loosely based on cars) don't they invite a star to drive around an airfield in one of those? Yep, I've got it... it looks like a Suzuki Liana.

I've not seen those before, they certainly look the part. I wonder what the price is? As for the waterproof thing; I have a pair of army surplus waterproof boot liners which I bought on Emud for

Thanks for the write up lads. And well done to the British riders; it's good to see Doug on the podium.

Near is a subjective term. The rear brake on my 2005 SY250 is near to the collector box, but certainly not touching. The gap is 22mm, take a look.

The pro's were bought out to replace the TXT's in 2002, although Gas Gas sold both side-by-side that year. There were one or two teething problems with early pro's as the were a new, much lighter design engine and chassis. In 2003 the pro's were improved following reaction to customer observations but a few TXT'x were still made and put on sale for those looking for a well proven reliable machine at a knock down price. For an average club rider, a well looked after 2003 TXT would be a very good choice, if you can find a good one.

Is your fuel oil mixture ok? I've put the oil in my fuel twice by mistake in the past. Just another thought, perhaps you've simply flooded it and there is a surplus of unburnt fuel lying in the bottom of the casings, not enough to stop it running but enough to make it run really rich and oil up. You could try running it with the fuel turned of until it stops to see if that clears it out. See if that helps.

Isn't it funny how the people on here are represented by "I'd love a trophy or a gift" and the "I'd come and collected my award" crowd. There hasn't been a post from the "you can stuff your award and the cash, 'cus I can't be bothered to collect it" brigade. If every award winner either collected or made arrangements to have their award collected, we would still be running a club championship now. I just couldn't face calling out 30 or so winners in front of 150 people and finding that half of the winners simply hadn't bothered to attend. It easier and much cheaper to scrap the championships and run club trials for the fun of it. Of course the other upside to this is, that the pressure is removed for me to find the full quota of observers. With no championship at stake, it's not so bad for the odd section to be observed by the riders themselves. Which also has the benefit that I put in as many sections as I like. Not five laps of eight because we've only got eight observers. I'd happily go back to championship trophies/awards if every rider really wanted me to. (One other note. We're an ACU club, so the only thing we can award youth riders is a trophy.)

And with a bit of luck you won't get one like I did that used two stators in five trials.

Probably because they are made so light that drilling oilways to the bearings would weaken them too much. There has to be some sacrifices for having these super light weight bikes.