Has the SSDT lost it ? yes a full entry but , A week to go and nothing no posts or build up .The last post march 16 and that was about Honda .When i was riding the trial all 20 of them there was a buzz about it but nothing now ! Has it gone the same way as the named nationals of old, forgot and just another trial ? . Look at photos of old 5 deep of spectators now look 50 if lucky. People dont even want go and watch . A total lack of build up for the ssdt
reading these post makes me laugh ,if you feel trials are not safe why do it ,if you feel a full face helmet is the way to go why not wear one, like wise a lanyard kill switch fit one , if the section is to hard or you feel its unsafe ask for a 5. Or if you feel you want to wear full body armour No one is not stopping you to from doing any of that ! if it makes you feel safe do it ,its called taking responsibility for your self , your the one that took the sport up and its up to you to find out what trials entails
Manufacturers should send teams to prove the reliability of their bikes. Modern bikes ideal - look at the list of checks / changes suggested by the factory / importer mechanics prior to recent SSDTs.
A decent comfortable seat, adequate radiator and mudguard sizes would be useful for a start. Old bikes had similar problems but the increased complexity and "squeezed in tight" construction of modern bikes makes faults harder to diagnose and fix in the field, especially within the SSDTs time constraints.
Note another posters comments on the 1981 Bultaco rider.
dadof2 do teams not get sent due to the cost ?If teams find world rounds tight on cash would they go to the ssdt . Plenty of people ride the bikes so will it really help sales . As for the check lists should a lot of that not be done and not just for ssdt ? im doing my beta now or that put out because a lot of riders do not know how to prepare a bike
The original question was "Which is the best to ride for a Clubman?" I have a choice of bikes to ride, but I do not get to try all bikes. However when we have our local practice sessions there is a very good range of bikes and rider ability. At these sessions there is a lot of discussion and scrutiny of the bikes. I also observe trials from evening club trials up to national championship level. Based on that my feeling / opinion is that out of the crate the Beta will suit a greater number of riders than other marques. Not that it is a better bike but just that its riding position, suspension, gearing and engine characteristics seem not to need changing whereas I find more owners of other bikes are changing gearing, bars, shocks, compression etc etc.
As I said all the modern bikes are pretty close, its just some have odd quirks. I have had many bikes, mainly 300cc and over 2Ts and the only bikes I ever actually disliked were TYZ250 (riding position) and Aprilia and Armstrong with the slug like unresponsive motors.
Why would I buy a 4RT? I like the build quality and as its 39 years since I last rode a 4T in a trial I just fancy a change. Although maybe not as competitive as 2T it will be any amount good enough for me.
When I was riding regularly and practiced plenty I had no problem with a 300 2T but now I feel a bit less power and easier starting may suit me more. I rode a friends 4RT a few years back and with the exception of big steps felt more comfortable on it than on my own 2T.
thanks for that dadof2 it was i have just come off a 4rt and onto a beta a 2016 and i wanted to know why you would do it the other way round , as you say 4rt was good on rocks but i found it was bad on banks would just stop and spin for no reason . there are a lot of betas around here so everyone can not be wrong ? time will tell
nice workmanship but what class dose it go in ? twin shock not fair on the old bikes is it.as not from twin shock era ! ,normal class not right for it ,against the modern bike ? So its a bit of a nothing bike then. So dose a club have to make yet another class for it to ride in ?
Straight out of the crate I would say Beta just shades it ahead of TRS, but it is very very close between all of them. If I were buying a new bike it would most likely be a 4RT which is probably the least competitive.
which bike do you ride now dadof 2 ? and how have you come to this expert opinion do you get to try all bikes ? why would you buy the least competitive bike strange !
dadof 2 the ssdt is not a part of wtc so why would wtc teams be sent ? .As for none of modern bikes are ideal for the ssdt what are you on !!!!?. SO no OLD bike ever seized. got dirt in carb & ignnition failed ? So according to YOU it would be better ride a old bike in preference to a modern light weight bike ? You are saying no modern bike is ideal for the ssdt so why & how do they finish the event ? So what experience of the ssdt do you have & on what bikes
reading these post i have not seen anything about the amount of road work and fast forest tracks that are used, so get your gearing nice for sections and then find it slow for that job ! yes i have ridden quite a few ssdt and as a rider i would gear my bike to use 1st most of the time and 2nd now and then.The With gearing up it gave me more speed for the road and tracks which helps and are you really going to use 3or4 in a ssdt section or or you going to be using 1st most ? , I have also seen people change front sprockets for the road work ,As soon as i got home i would change my gearing back to what i would use as I found ssdt gearing was no good for normal trials .What i am trying to get across is that ssdt gearing is a 1 off
i use hebo and seal skin socks which i find this gear is very good for clubman level trials hope this helps and I ride ok thanks for asking ! if you are not going to change your sprockets not much point in telling you what i use
Rob Edwards & Malcom Rathmell bikes are pre production bikes using 247 parts round forks and wheels ,note angle of rear shocks and both bikes right hand gear change brake arm left hand side of hub , production bikes had square fork bottoms and a cone shape rear wheel with brake arm on right side of hub and left hand gear change
i have gone through much the same bad starting and running ,may i suggest you replace the wiring loom they are not that much, As you have seen the wires corrode bad and rot away , A new loom may save a lot of time as you start chasing faults through the loom
sorry nigel your correct about buying a truck, it was hire a motor home with awning 6sept13 ,Rabie might laugh, i agree with him but a lot of things wrote are club level not RUGBY , As for RMC a good piece in Richmond news "costs charitys £6000 " why ?to mark out historic sites that the national park dont know were they were. Dose the ACU have someone on the books for land matters ? if so would that not help clubs ?,
Not a joke ! ."Nigel" the man that wanted ACU to buy a truck, !!!!! Lets look at the scott how much problem was caused to the club with land problems from the national parks ? dont see the ACU stepping up to sort it out, Left to the club ... Trials clubs buy land then pay the ACU for the privilege to run a trial on there own land put on by volunteers , ACU championship trial its all down to a club to sort ! SO what dose the ACU do then Nigel ? they can not even make there mind up what set of rules to use stop/or non stop ! some governing body ! Remember the ACU just dont get the £10 registration fee they also get money from every entry of every trial run
well my 10p worth. Not a lot i dont see them finding land / putting flags in / getting observers for trials but they soon have a go at a club or a official if its not done the way they want it ! remember club officials do it for the love of the sport & in there OWN time , I keep hearing the word cheep ? well if i pay £15 entry and observe your self, I may as well just go and practice, its down to value for money sorry acu you are just not cutting it ! How much money has been raised from trials ? and found its way back into the sport ? or put it another way how much trials land dose the acu own ? / no land no trials , The acu and trials have been going a lot of years !
you could find that you are dropping your inner shoulder in on the turn, no matter how much you weight the outer foot rest you will still drop in and thus dab . Might help
I have rode SM rounds and KIA on a twin shock so feel I can add something . What I can see is trials for these bikes are getting harder so catch 22 mod a bike or leave ? . It seems the people that have spent 1000s on a bike want harder sections more of a advantage ?,ANS ....Well start from scratch make the sections for standard bikes ie easy ! yes modified bikes will find it easy but they will not have that much of a advantage, how many times on these forums has someone put ive just got a bike what mods to do ?, It might also make people think whats the point of (spending 1000s )modifying my bike , As for loads of cleans ? well the oldest rider wins or a special test . What I have found over the years it is harder to ride a easy trial than a hard trial . AS for the bikes waist of time trying to sort the bikes now as it has BEEN let to get out of hand, so make sections so there is NO advantage to a modified bike ,and please remember to all these people that keep saying "standard " back in the day it was 1 course suits all ! plus the sections were a lot harder then than now just not as tight !
hello hoggy you have time timed it up on wrong stroke remove sparkplug and use long screw driver and check piston is tdc with timing mark(T) on fly wheel
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Has the SSDT lost it ? yes a full entry but , A week to go and nothing no posts or build up .The last post march 16 and that was about Honda .When i was riding the trial all 20 of them there was a buzz about it but nothing now ! Has it gone the same way as the named nationals of old, forgot and just another trial ? . Look at photos of old 5 deep of spectators now look 50 if lucky. People dont even want go and watch . A total lack of build up for the ssdt