jon v8

I guess you didnt go to the Malvern show then ?

So what do they do to the cam ?

I just have a bad back and a dodgy right knee,guess that goes for all of us who have "lived/worked" a little ! For the Mont I thought about doing the frame with ordinary white spray paint so I can mod the frame or repair it and have no problems in refinishing.I am undecided on moving the pegs,think I'll try it standard first. Am I alone in not really liking the modern wide pegs ? My Ty was fitted with them when I bought it,but I've toyed with changing the actual rest to the old narrow type so my feet can pivot around them - maybe my ankles arent so flexible now.The modern boots not having an instep to locate your foot on the pegs dont help me either,my old Alpinestars were much better in this respect,the modern pegs and Sidi boots feel like I'm treading round on an 8x4 sheet of ply !

Well thats two yes votes then,what do you reckon on originality - total,or do I do the lowered wide footrest,etc,etc?

So Greeves, does that mean my Mk1 247 Cota is worth rebuilding then ? Most people chuckle when I say I'm going to spend some cash on it,but get all excited when I mention building my spare Ty250 up as a Majesty.

Yes - certainly have,the TY80 I have done for my son has cost the best part of

Hindsight...... It doesnt seem long ago that there a CCM 350 in the classifieds of TMX most weeks for about

I bought a new TLR 250 in Feb 86,had it just over a year.In that time it needed the clutch mods - which I did,BUT it also needed a cam chain,barrel,piston and the head and cam were shot too.I did 22 trials on it and it had Pro 4,changed after every other trial.Lovely looking bike,lovely sound,but it wasnt much good.The 241 Fantic that replaced it was loads better,but the Yam mono after that was the best of the lot. Saying all that I'd buy another if it were not for the silly prices.I paid

Just read through all this lot with interest even tho I only ride twinshock now.It reminded me of the Bath Knut trial back in 1986 or 87,with Steve Saunders absolutely flying up a muddy slot on his RTL which was so steep it would have been a strugggle in the dry - he just made it look so easy,nobody else did.I couldnt get my RTL ,(in 89) to do anything like as good as my TYR did in 88. Mr Saunders knows a thing or two about trials............

Majestyman, as a polite request can you please stop this - its not constructive,you have made your views very clear.This is now spoiling an excellent forum which is not helping anyone.May I suggest that if you still want to carry this on that you organise via PM a pub meet and have a proper debate over a few pints.There is no solution to satisfy everyone's feelings about trials,but we are lucky to have the choices we do,I for one just want to ride and enjoy as many trials as possible while we still can.

Beat me to it ! Why is a row going on during a day when you should be riding/observing/organising ? I've ridden a Somerton club trial today - first one of theirs I've ridden,bikes ranged form a rigid Ariel with open valve gear and girder forks to brand new GG and Sherco's etc on an A or B route.Didnt hear a single moan all day,great day out and well run.Surely this is what trials is all about ? Talking to a bloke from Germany at the Dartmoor 2 day last Sept he said that over there they only have around 20 clubs each owning a single trials venue no other land is used and they cant ride in streams.Surely we should just enjoy what we have before Defra or whoever do the same to us ?

Tried allsorts inc Airoh at BVM Moto a couple of weeks back and settled on a matt black Hebo,very comfy,light,well vented and a nice quick release strap.Just got back from my first trial wearing it,(Somerton Pre65/Twinshock) and I'm really pleased with it.But like everthing its just what works for you.What I'm really not happy with is my Sidi boots - they are rubbish,leak like a sieve and are the most uncomfortable things you could imagine.

Help ! anyone with AMC experience ? Or am I totally shot away !

Lots of interesting views here,but unless I miss something massive in the theory of observed trials,the only person you can fool is yourself.Everyone starts at the bottom and works their way,(hopefully) up through the results table.So riding a twinshock or pre 65 bike to a spec that YOU know is not in the spirit of the class you entered in means YOU are a pratt for trying it on.Come the Christmas P-ss up and trophy presentation wouldnt YOU rather accept the jug knowing YOU won it fair and square ? There are riders in the Bath club who compete on bikes who we all know are nowhere near what is in the spirit of the rules however they are written.But they turn up on the day and ride,but when the results are posted I tend to ignore them and look at who really had the best score.

That ally step ladder was well tucked back out the way,reckon he had frame mod in mind - but all in keeping.......

So is the tubing T45 Tig welded on the sack trucks - or is it the bog standard ones ?

Hi all,now I may be mad but I have a chance to buy what I want of a partly stripped 55-56 350 matchless road bike.I've always liked Ajay/Matchie singles,(rode a 1940 ex WD G3 on girders for several years.)and I'd like to build a rigid trials bike for a few gentle summer rides.My question is what year/years of rigid frame are best to start with ? Also are the mid 50's forks the ones to use?

Cheers Woody,but an offer was made to me this afternoon that might be worth taking for another project that I have in mind.Its a mid 50's 350 Matchless,partially stripped.Its a road bike but I can put in an offer for whatever bits of it I want as it has no V5 and my neighbour does jumbling. I've been toying with the idea of building a pre 65 rigid to ride while I'm still strong enough to ride one.(Knackered back and manky right knee permitting ! )

I rode an early Ty250 from 1988-90,it was very secondhand when I bought it.But it was also the easiest to ride,most fun and apart from the mudguards - unbreakable.Not sure about the pinky,I guess they should be better than the earlier ones but I think the early R model with the small tank and alloy kickstart is the best looking. The time will come when they become expensive too, as they were so reliable lots of them ended up as farm bikes and were/are beaten to death.Cow poo and zero maintenance will see to that.I think they will go the way of Morris Minor vans and pickups - everyone knew how good they were and few were saved,those that are still around are worth a packet.The Ty mono must be just about the best trials bike ever,I am quietly looking for a white R,(dont tell my wife) to ride in the over 50 mono class for in 7 yrs time I reckon they will be the same price as Honda RTL's. I had one of those too,lovely looking,lovely sound - couldnt ride it for anything !

A decent parts supplier is not only about price,but from what I've read on here today some places are becoming a bit greedy.With most of the suppliers having websites with prices its easy enough to work out the best deal. All I would like to add is that JK Hirst have been spot on for the 2 years I've been buying bits for my Ty's they know the bikes and do what they say they will do.BVM Moto are also top notch,they are confident in what they do and are very helpful. Working in the motor trade I know how poor parts suppliers can be,and what the mark up on parts is too.Look in any Land Rover mag at the parts specialist ads and its always a laugh at the "favour" they are doing the punters over OEM prices.

I reckon those are the same two that ride the Bath classic series - as stated they both go well and sound great when screaming their brains out !

The Ty 250 twinshock uses a bolted ring around the O/D of the flywheel,whereas my old 250 Beamish had a plate bolted to the outer face of the flywheel.Think I may have a go at making a slimline cover for my Ty when I get the rest of it 100%. BTW does anyone know the correct torque setting for the clutch hub nut on a Ty250 - I have mine apart to dress the clutch basket tangs and I'd like to torque it properly.

As I said I only had a quick 5 mins around the yard last night,but it felt alot better.Back in 1985 when I started on a 250 Beamish I removed the weight on that and found it alot easier to ride.Its the way that the engine slows quicker that I'm after - not so much the pickup.My footrests are the SM lowered/rearward type and I really like the way it grips and steers.If I could get the brakes to work better then there wouldnt be much else to do.(Just find a decent rider for it) Micky,mine is not a Majesty,just a standard Ty,But lose weight - are you serious ? It has cost thousands and many years to look this good ! My other complete but non runner 250 I'm thinking about making into a Majesty,by altering the existing frame myself.But I've never ridden one and I'd really like to try one before I go to all that work.

I removed the weight from my 250 after work this evening,I only had a quick ride around the yard for 5mins - lots quicker on pickup and also dies back down again nicely rather than rolling on.This will make life easier in the sections as the brakes arent the best,(what make linings do the best job ? ) it also had me thinking that some clever type could come up with a much slimmer flywheel cover to help slimming the motor down.If you look at the existing one its far bigger than it needs to be. There is also about 8-10mm on the end of the crank serving no useful purpose.I've seen the Majesty ones which are smart enough but I've heard they are too strong and break the crankcase rather than fail themselves,they also dont seem any more tucked in than the original. Maybe I'm being fussy !

Being a cheeky git - I'll pay the post on the old one if you are going to bin it !