I can fully understand why riders stop competing at the very top level as at some point cost/ personal commitment outweighs results/ enjoyment.
The sad thing I see in recent times is that some walk away from the sport altogether. ( this Is not aimed at the 2 recent retirees but an observation over a the last few years)
Not sure if they just get stale., only want to do it if they are winning or never really enjoyed it but found they where good at it and was a good parent //child thing when on the up?
Having ridden for 40 plus years I could not imagine not having a bike and competing - I’ve had quiet years but never lost the bug and always has a bike in the garage to ride.
I appreciate that if not winning they are not enjoying or fear of not being the best.
In a much smaller scale I found it difficult as I got older to start getting beaten by younger riders or newcomers but learnt to accept it as enjoyment of riding was greater than that of being top of the results.
My first bike was a TL 125 that was a bit of a shed that I went halves with big bro and paid for with paper-rounds and birthday / Christmas money . We spent time tweaking and getting back to a rideable Mount.
just wondering in the modern world that this man(boy) and Machine bond is never made - or maybe I’m a bit sad and need a therapist ??
Hi Jimmyl, how are you finding the 301 compared to the 300? Just a thought if I decide to stay with the Mont I might upgrade at some point. I've heard different reviews some advise stick with the 300 and others say the 301 is even better, I would really like an honest opinion from somebody. Thanks
301 is best mont to date - i was impressed when changed from 260 to 300rr bur 301 is another 20 or 30 % better again. Just the same but much better - nothing obvious but just smoother and more useable Its hard to describe but when I changed early 2020 and let a few local mont 260 riders have ago they thought i should be banned for cheating ???
sound from the exhaust is nicer to ride at home and much quiter for the neighbours. I'm only 1m75 and 62kg and find it verry hard
to hop with the front wheel. Also when i put the front wheel on the ground afther a zap over a rock or log the wheel feels to
kisses the ground with more weight than my Beta do. At the trials terrain in Breda there are lots off teight turnings to make
and with the 4rt i need to hop the front wheel to make them. ...gona give it a try for a couple off weeks and than decide
what i'm going to do. To trails around and ride up/off hill the 4rt is wonderfull.
Greathings,
Luc
Especially with the earlier ones but less so with latter ones I found you have to keep the throttle open a bit on landing the front wheel. You can control the weight of the wheel coming down as much on the throttle as the brakes.
Having ridden 4rt for a while now and on a 301 now I find I have to use the brake more as latest bikes have less engine braking .
This helps though on slippery downhill cambers and drop as the front seems less weighted
I've got 2020 4ride with only 100 miles on it has developed a tapping from the top of the engine. It only happens after 10-15 mins of riding when it's hot. It's most noticeable when the bike is idling and sounds like someone is tapping a spanner against the top of the engine. My 4rt has never made this noise.
Before I start taking the thing to bits or starting a warranty claim, does anyone have any ideas? Could it be valve clearance? Oil not getting to the valves?
Hopefully won't be anything serious with the bike being so new...
Cheers
Ross
As it’s virtually brand new and only 100 Miles seems strange to give it a service.
i would take it it back to the dealer before ripping things to bits.
once you start to mess would presume warranty starts to get fuzzy
Don't mess with the bike - you will spoil it, Set it to standard and then learn how to ride it, Find somebody who can show you how to get the best out of a 4rt.
if nobody local search this forum for tips.
Once you have got the hang of the Mont then modify anything you think is needed
GREAT as we are talking about BTC "BTC " the best in the country stand out but it has had to turn into a normal trial multi course to keep running due to the lack of entry (the point of the forum) but i still can not see what the point of sections so hard the top boys taking 5s or3s on them
None of the top boys asked for a 5 in St David's last year - if anything they wanted it harder ???
it takes weeks of planning for BTC (and other nationals /big events) (even a club trials takes a few weeks to organise ) so once the event date is committed to it is very hard to stop and start again on another date even if riders are free, land owner agrees.
There are observers/officials etc to sort out again, First aid, Food van, Toilets etc etc That's without looking at the sections etc
Totally agree. I think its spot on the way it is. You cant criticise the whole championship just because covid has effected the top level entry. The overall entry across all classes the last few years has been great i think.
And the top boys get to show how good and how brave they are - which is good for joe public as when they are allowed back in
"I've replaced the sole once (Sherco pegs were hard on the soles compared to GasGas and Beta). Also had an extra rivet put in the corner of the shin guard as it tended to catch on the pegs. The soles are fairly grippy but don't have a very aggressive tread so aren't great in soft, muddy conditions."
Has resoling them been successful - the 4rt kickstart seem to be the only shortcoming with my SIDI boots - had varying success with new soles -last time on Gaerne was a waste of money - do you just use local cobler?
The top 6 / 8/ 10 how ever many want it super tough to push themselves/each other
The up and coming -older past BTC rider doesn't want to hurt themselves
The good center expert / older older BTC rider (sorry Dan) just want a good days sport and a national championship aimed at a slightly higher level then S3 champ.
The good Local Centre riders can ride and enjoy the event without being hurt.
Always going to be a compromise but Kind of works at the moment - good competition in each class and the organizer get enough riders to balance the books
Thanks for the suggestions! After buying everything to drill it and use a speed out, I tried using the sharp scribe as Jimmyl suggested and it worked. I couldn’t be happier. I have the new bolt on order and as long as I don’t screw anything else up, should finish the oil change in just under 4 days time. That might be a new record for my slowest oil change ever. Thanks again for the suggestions!
Always worth a try first -one you start with drills and things you are kind of committed to drilling out and tapping as the bolts tends to swage out and go tight unless very gentle.
As the bolts are steel and the casing are ally the drill can easily wander of center.
Good to hear you will soon be back on the road /track/hill.
PS - make sure you get the end plate with the spigot seated nice and square before doing up the little tag the offending bolts -it easy to be slight off set and then the spigot is a few mm out of line and the casing will not line up on the dowels.
PPS - if not already -do the job with bike laying on its side on the ground and refill with oil before potting the casing back on - its sooooo much quicker
Well they just finally beat out Beta for the worst fender design ever. Did they use a `57 chevy bel air or a F`14 fighter jet for the idea???
Might look weird but is very effective.
The end flare keeps the mud off your back - something that the last design did not do -(I used to run pre 14 rear mudguards on my 15 - 260 and 300RR when wet and boggy as more effective) and the ridges help give some strength but also take the knocks first and hence protect the plastic and stickers down in the valley so maintaining appearance.
Where to get 4rt graphics??
in Montesa
Posted
2015 part numbers for std rear mudguard -I think
87132-NN4-K10 STICKER “4RT”.
87134-NN4-K10 SEAT STICKER
87136-NN4-K10 CENTRAL STICKER REAR FENDER
87135-NN4-K10 RH STICKER REAR FENDER
87137-NN4-K10 LH STICKER REAR FENDER