All classes at a British championship round will have a time limit is how I read it. But the "new " rules don't apply to other series like s3 etc. I don't see how this is a problem for an organiser as they are different events on different days. Try it at BTC and see how it goes, s3 champs doesn't have a problem with entries.
Don't see any need to have a pop at the acu.
Thought that’s what I said so thanks reconfirming ??
stop and hop allowed with 1 minute time limit. Is this all 3 routes in BTC? And is this likely to filter down to the more traditional trials - S3 and nationals etc?
assume clubs at their own free will to decide what they want to implement within club trials.
As I read the press release the rules are for BTC only. As ACU handbook is not out yet I guess we can only ponder if these rules will be allowed in any other event but time will confirm one way or another. As organisers have already agreed to to run the other championships presume they will be running as they did in 2019.
No never tried again -had a look on line at the CRF programming stuff but nothing was cheap and didn't want to spend the money for just a play.
Maybe need to ask my dealer if they have software available as they have both the Montesa and Honda off road franchises as well as their road bike offerings.
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Are you saying the 301 has 301RR parts list and manual are now out. And nothing in either about the stock 4ED 16400-NN1-P71
The 300 RR being 16400-NN4-M71
Other throttle bodies have a noticeably different parts number not just a letter change!!
The 301RR also has different center-cases (both sides) and a different crank. The parts list is available on the Montesa Honda Spain and Montesa France sites.
What is the part number of the programmable TB/ECU you got for the 300RR. Is it the HRC 16400-NN4-M01 from the RTL300R?
Hi Sports lawyer
Did you get anywhere after your post on the 300RR PTB thread we had going a while back
Thanks for the update. I've continued searching for information on anOptional Tuning Kitfor the 2016/2017 300RR (or RTL300R) and 4RT260 bikes. But haven't found anything yet that's specific to the 300RR. Have seen some suggestions that the 2016 / 2017 4RT260 3ED/4ED TB/ECU (16400-NN4-L31) is also programmable, but no "I've done it and used this" reports.
Have found that Honda has unified the cable set (38880-N1C-770 UNIT ASSY, SERIAL-USB I/F), and it's used for every other programmable FI bike since MY 2012 that I've found information on -- CBR250R, NSF250R, MSX125, CBR1000RR, CRF450R, CRF250R, and probably more. I suspect this supersedes the 38880-NN4-H00 cable set (first came out for the 2010 Japanese RTL260F), which superseded the 38880-NN4-306 cable set. I have the 38880-NN4-H00 set (use it with the 2010 RTL260F software 38771-NN4-H00) and it appears to be the same as the newer 38880-N1C-770 down to all the connectors and lettering on the switch box.
I'll update with any new information I find. And hopefully Honda will get around to publishing something about the kit.
Fair play to Brian Higgins and the ACU for such a bold step -don't think anybody can level the fuddy duddy old timers not listening tag any more.
It will be an interesting championship and bound to be a few snags but with Brian visiting every organiser and event prior to the date of the trial as he did this year should hopefully get consistency on severity and section length sortied to suit the new rules.
Riders will need to re-learn the skill of managing their time in a sectiion and not mess about on the first hazard and then run out of time and complain the section is too long ??
I find with a mont wheel, X light and Tyre soap they pop on without a beader - even when new. But I have been doing it a fair while and probably got the knack. A beader is a 100% option
No, not a two stroke, but probably an old antiquated four stroke ?
I wonder if the 'new' 301 RR will have any features from the Repsol works bikes; especially in the engine department? Thinking of dual spark, updated clutch, different gearbox and crankshaft... In other words: a completely different engine.
Montesa/Honda historically don't change model name just for sticker change so maybe something new internally? Maybe closer to the RG bikes like Toby Martin and Billy Green have used and other GP2 riders.
Rear disc looks FIM style if nothing else.
There was a video on the internet a few months back (before Japan WTC maybe) of Bou riding a non repsol model in Japan so maybe testing the 301 engine
Above is all very true and some bits are 315R bits so even longer then 15 yrs (First 315 was 97!!) Maybe it would be nice to see something radical but would that be at the possible expense of the legendary durability.
I guess Hondas ethos is that they treat every bike they make the same with a full road legal kit, workshop manuals etc etc. With Bou winning on a very special "std" bike and the rest of the range selling in reasonable volumes plus the 4ride as you say the economics in reality say they are doing the correct thing.(head ruling heart unlike maybe some of the other manufactures that are struggling)
Maybe HRC could do what the car giants do with the likes of AMG/Brabus/BMW M models. Arbarth etc and produce a limited Full factory (nearly) bike but would probably be £15K.
In realty the 300RR performance wise is very good - only drawback against the 2ts is the weight but to reduce that either adds bucks or reduces reliability - Maybe a 4 speed, single plate clutch, reverse cylinder, carbon exhaust and new decals
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Thought that’s what I said so thanks reconfirming ??